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Removing admin powers
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The result of the discussion was delete.
Deryck C. 18:36, 28 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete both - What administrative users can and can't do is a general topic throughout a bunch of different websites, and this is far from something only related to Wikipedia. Deletion is the right call.
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Wikipedia:Administrateurs
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The result of the discussion was delete. -
Nabla (
talk) 18:04, 30 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Inappropriate foriegn language redirect, didn't know we had these in project space. - CHAMPION(
talk) (
contributions) (
logs) 23:40, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete - no need for foreign language redirects in project space.
Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 23:50, 19 November 2016 (UTC)reply
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Desop
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The result of the discussion was speedily deleted by
Ponyo. --
BDD (
talk) 23:51, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
I've speedy deleted the redirect as it's makes no sense at all and certainly won't help with navigation.--
Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 23:42, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
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AIAV
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The result of the discussion was delete. Note that
wp:AIAV already exists
Nabla (
talk) 18:03, 30 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Inappropriate cross-namespace redirect, there doesn't seem to be a notable subject which this is an acronym for. - CHAMPION(
talk) (
contributions) (
logs) 23:37, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment this has NOT been speedy deleted at the time I am writing this comment. - CHAMPION(
talk) (
contributions) (
logs) 23:54, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Sorry! I ended up putting the closing tags on the wrong section since a new section was being added to the page at the same time. But I should've noticed the change. The item in the discussion above this was speedily deleted, not this one. --
BDD (
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Wikipedia:Sysop rights
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Wikipedia:Gorillas consuming gerbils
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The result of the discussion was keep, as soft and tagged as humor. Redirects out for Harambe? --
BDD (
talk) 22:11, 30 November 2016 (UTC)reply
I don't know what the origin of this is, but doesn't seem to have been used much. - CHAMPION(
talk) (
contributions) (
logs) 23:32, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete, even though I laugh every time I look at it. —
Gorthian (
talk) 00:26, 19 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Soft redirect and tag as humour. This will allow people to continue laughing at it without confusing unsuspecting readers. I've edited below the RfD template.
Deryck C. 11:11, 21 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep. Wait, is that a gerbil? Mmmmm! Guy (
Help!) 10:47, 23 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Retarget to
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Harambe or delete. I don't think it's a good idea to label RfA in this manner, especially if the candidate is the gerbil in this metaphor. --
Tavix(
talk) 11:45, 23 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Retarget to
Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. Should be concerted into a humour essay one day, but even the redirect is too funny just to toss.
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Request for admin
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The result of the discussion was delete.
Deryck C. 18:39, 28 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Even if we were to keep this, it seems more likely to indicate a desire to contact an admin for help, rather than for RfA. And if you want to be an admin and start out searching "Request for admin", I think the answer is a respectful but emphatic
WP:NOTNOW. --
BDD (
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Upazila Parishad
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The result of the discussion was keep. --
BDD (
talk) 22:08, 30 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Upazila Parishad is elected governing body of an Upazila, there are 490 Upazila's in Bangladesh. I belive that the Parishads are independently notable and should have articles on them.
Vinegarymass911 (
talk) 17:11, 12 November 2016 (UTC)reply
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Keep; just as the target article is an overview of what an Upazila is, there could be an overview article about Upazila Parishads in general. Meanwhile, the section in the target article covers it briefly.
Vinegarymass911, just as there are individual articles on each Upazila, you could have individual articles on each Upazila Parishad, e.g.,
Juri Upazila Parishad,
Narayanganj Sadar Upazila Parishad, or
Niamatpur Upazila Parishad. I don't understand why the redirect
Upazila Parishad is a problem. —
Gorthian (
talk) 00:41, 19 November 2016 (UTC)reply
keep, per Gorthian -
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Putinland
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The result of the discussion was procedural close. Article restored. --
BDD (
talk) 16:27, 21 November 2016 (UTC)reply
See
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Putinland for some context. This is a rough synonym for something like "Vladimir Putin's Russia", but that's too rough to merit a redirect anywhere. Indeed, the phrase isn't mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia. It reminds me of two neologisms in American politics:
Nixonland and
Clintonland, both of which sort of denote the person's inner circle, are generalizable as a "-land" suffix, and suggest something shady (cf. the
"-gate" suffix). But as you can see, one of those is red, and one is a book title.
BDD (
talk) 22:16, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
I've reverted the redirect back to the original article. After the original AfD was closed with no concensus, perma-banned
User:Russavia edit-warred the article into a re-direct. --
Nug (
talk) 05:41, 20 November 2016 (UTC)reply
That's acceptable to me. Thanks. --
BDD (
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Just to note, I'm going to take the article back to AfD. Regardless of what else Russavia did (and I don't know what else he did), I think he was right in his assessment of this article. --
BDD (
talk) 16:32, 21 November 2016 (UTC)reply
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Wow. I... ok, agreed, we'll call this
WP:SNOW and unanimous. Ah, Dubya... --
BDD (
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Putler
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The result of the discussion was speedy deleted,
G10, by
Ronhjones. --
Tavix(
talk) 16:32, 19 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Created by a
WP:SPA, the edit history indicates that this was a Ukrainian internet meme, but it's not one we have discussion of anywhere, nor is it a well-known nickname for Putin himself.
BDD (
talk) 22:05, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
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Political Strongman of Russia
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The result of the discussion was speedy delete. --
BDD (
talk) 23:52, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Regardless of how accurate you may think this label, it's not appropriate or helpful as a redirect.
WP:RNEUTRAL says we may have redirects like this. But this one doesn't really have merits that make it worth keeping. It's not mentioned in his article as a notable nickname; we previously deleted "
Europe's last dictator", a similar redirect (and IMO, a more accurate one); and finally, I think Russia has had
another political strongman or two in its history.
BDD (
talk) 22:02, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Speedy delete. Clearly, this was not interpreted the way I had expected it to be. I've changed my mind on this redirect, and I no longer want it on Wikipedia. I, the creator, urge that it be
speedily deleted due to
author request.--
Mr. Guye (
talk) 22:45, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
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Disney XD International
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The result of the discussion was delete.
Deryck C. 14:12, 28 November 2016 (UTC)reply
There is no entity with this name, no inbound links. Redirect was created from an undone page move.
Geraldo Perez (
talk) 18:17, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete. I was going to say to retarget to
Disney XD, but then I realized that by the time you finished typing the first two words, you'd be shown the article anyway, which makes it implausible as a search term. Plus it gets very little use. —
Gorthian (
talk) 18:27, 19 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete There's Disney Online International, but not Disney XD International.
[1]AngusWOOF (
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Azzura Birleanu
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The result of the discussion was delete.
Deryck C. 14:11, 28 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Originally tagged for CSD as A7 and G11 but was declined in favour of a redirect. The child is not mentioned in any sources and has a passing mention in the father's article that is not backed up by reliable sources. I think this redirect could only serve to confuse the average Wikipedia reader and should be deleted.
TonyBallioni (
talk) 17:55, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete Child is mentioned in his website biography along with Eva Sofia Birleanu.
[2] but neither of whom have reached any sort of notability.
AngusWOOF (
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Anti-Indian Annexation Law of Kashmir
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The result of the discussion was Speedily deleted. This was probably heading for deletion anway, but there is no need to wait, as it was created by a block-evading sockpuppeteeer, who has a number of sockpuppet accounts globally locked due to persistent cross-wiki abuse. The editor who uses the pseudonym "
JamesBWatson" (
talk) 21:20, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
No source found on the web for "Anti-Indian Annexation Law of Kashmir"
Domdeparis (
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Trump caterpillar
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The result of the discussion was delete. There are some good arguments to keep, and I don't think there's a BLP concern here. I do find consensus to delete, but I could imagine this changing in the future. --
BDD (
talk) 22:05, 30 November 2016 (UTC)reply
visual similarity of hair style of Trump is below tone / encyclopaedic values of site, and disparaging against policy
WP:BLP (term not covered in article, so is unsourced, despite being mildly visually similar and humourous) Widefox;
talk 17:26, 9 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom. Wait until such nicknames receive significant notability.
AngusWOOF (
bark •
sniff) 21:07, 9 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete "Trump caterpillar" has gone viral multiple times, and over the various viral iterations, things have gotten very confused. Originally, a photo of a caterpillar taken in Peru was dubbed "Trump caterpillar" and went viral in early 2013 (see
this Facebook post. Megalopyge opercularis does not occur in Peru, although related species do. A
2015 article includes the Peruvian photo, but mentions similar species, including M. opercularis (and
this 2014 article also has the Peruvian photo alongside a mention of M. opercularis). Some of the instances of the original Peruvian photo attribute copyright to Phil Torres. In the most recent viral iteration, Megalopyge opercularis is being conflated with whatever was in the original Peruvian photo. The most recent viral iteration seems to stem from
this Youtube video; I don't have sound, so I'm not sure what is being said, but apparently Jeff Cremer is claiming credit for the 2013 photo (possible, he is affiliated with the lodge that made the Facebook post), and is now claiming that the Peruvian caterpillar is M. opercularis (having apparently gotten confused into a misidentification from previous viral iterations). Long story short, multiple Megalopyge species bear some resemblance to Trump's hair. The first species that got viral attention was Peruvian; that species wasn't identified originally, but is now being misidentified as M. opercularis.
Plantdrew (
talk) 16:53, 10 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Question: That's an interersting theory, can you provide some RS on that, and on what would be the correct taxon then? A number of the sources (see below) use the same pictures like our WP entry. --
SI 10:28, 12 November 2016 (UTC)reply
delete the wiki isn't a repository of dank memes, especially inaccurate ones per Plantdrew's findings --
Lenticel(
talk) 01:49, 11 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep, the name got significant media and viral coverage, see collapsable list below. Perhaps retarget if Plantdrew's above claim be verified. --
SI 10:28, 12 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete Non-notable meme, (We're gonna build a wall around RfD and the admins are gonna pay for it!). - CHAMPION(
talk) (
contributions) (
logs) 21:38, 17 November 2016 (UTC)reply
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Deryck C. 11:08, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete. It's a caterpillar that slightly resembles Trump, but there's no sustained usage of this term as a name of the caterpillar, so it should be deleted. Similar redirects like
Trump bird,
Trump pheasant, or
Trump Pokémon also don't exist and shouldn't.
64.105.98.115 (
talk) 19:27, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Did you even take a look at all the sources? --
SI 20:17, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
I did not look at all of them. There are far too many, and a cursory inspection shows that most of them would not establish common usage either way. I did look at some, and most are from this year - not sufficient to demonstrate sustained usage as opposed to silly election-year memes.
64.105.98.115 (
talk) 21:57, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete As entertaining as this RfD is, I don't think there is any reason for this redirect to exist. There are serious BLP concerns here as well.
TonyBallioni (
talk) 20:00, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
BLP concerns? Mr. Trump is using that kind of humor for his own benefit,
[3],
[4],
[5],
[6],
[7],
[8] so that's really not a BLP issue! --
SI 21:04, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Yes, he promotes his hair, but I don't think he would be particularly fond of the larvae of an insect being named after it. It's an inherently derogatory comparison in my opinion, which is what raises the BLP issues. I don't think it would be appropriate to include a list of all the animals that have received coverage for looking like Trump in his own article, and I think a redirect to a caterpillar would have similar issues.
TonyBallioni (
talk) 21:10, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Trump is not a school boy being bullied for his acne or knock knees; he is a self-imposed top-level prominent figure with a self-chosen hairstyle where he gets public commentary about. It's not about his double chin or BMI.
[9] Like the dresses of Lady Gaga it's really another strech of BLP to measure here. The
List of nicknames used by George W. Bush is way more BLP critical. --
SI 23:38, 19 November 2016 (UTC)reply
@
Plantdrew: could you give an answer to the above question? --
SI 20:17, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
I don't think there are any reliable sources to prove my theory, because I don't think any of the sources provided above are really reliable when it comes to entomological identification, and sources that are reliable on identification haven't discussed "Trump caterpillars". I think it's indisputable that the first viral instance of "Trump caterpillar" was based on a photo taken in Peru. I'm not finding any reliable sources (when it comes to entomology) that suggest that M. opercularis actually occurs in Peru, although it is a common species in the United States. Many species in the genus
Megalopyge or the family
Megalopygidae looks somewhat like Donald Trump's hair. If this redirect is going to be kept it should probably go to Megalopygidae. None of the sources are reliable for entomological identification, and it's clear in some of the 2014/2015 sources that M. opercularis is being mentioned as related to, but distinct from, Peruvian caterpillar that went viral originally.
Plantdrew (
talk) 21:13, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep. For what it's worth, I think the "Trump caterpillar" meme has changed the general public's understanding of this caterpillar species. So the meme deserves a mention on Wikipedia and a relevant redirect.
Deryck C. 18:41, 28 November 2016 (UTC)reply
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Pussy crushing
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The result of the discussion was delete.
Deryck C. 18:42, 28 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete. One-time TV episode joke. Unlikely search term (
124 unique hits). Tellingly, the only thing that links to it is an
AN/I thread about a problem user who hears something used once on TV, and creates a redirect for it. Despite his insistence it was of great importance to that episode, it barely appears in the plot section, which makes it seem like the use of "retarded" was more controversial in its story.
Ribbet32 (
talk) 14:48, 9 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep although I am the creator who Ribbet is declaring a "problem user". Ribbet is not providing an accurate synopsis about this. You can see at
http://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/Sponsored_Content/Script that the phrase is used several times (not just once) in the episode, as follows:
PC Bro 14: No other way to be. So uh, listen. I think you're really pretty and interesting, and I'd kinda like to take you upstairs and totally crush your pussy
PC Bro 14: No, I'm sorry, I need affirmative consent. I'll need you to say "Yes, you may take me upstairs and crush my pussy at this time." .
Sharon: Do you want to explain to me what pussy crushing is?!
Jimmy: Does this have to do with me calling the school principal a pussy crusher?
PC Principal: I don't speak up for minorities so that I can crush pussy.
PC Principal: I came to this town really thinking I could make a difference. I've been called a bigot towards persons with disabilities. I've been called... Pussy-crusher, because of the behavior of a very few individuals in my PC frat.
"PC Principal" is now the regular principal on South Park, and this repeated use is notable for that reason because it is what he is called.
It may be worth arguing however that rather than redirecting to South Park that the term be explained in some sort of article about slang (assuming it's not notable enough for its own) because I just did some additional research and it appears that the phrase was in use prior to this 2016 episode:
Is there an appropriate list of slang words for hooking up for a 1-night stand that this could be directed to instead of the south park episode?
Ranze (
talk) 20:31, 12 November 2016 (UTC)reply
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Deryck C. 11:07, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment I don't know what was to be gained from relisting. Only person who wanted it kept was the creator. A few uses in a TV episode doesn't change that it was one TV episode; One external link produced by the creator (where it wasn't even the primary topic of the article) doesn't change that this term is little-used outside of porn. Neelix redirects became speedyable because of cringeworthy sexism; this is more misogynistic since it uses violent imagery against female parts. Finally, hardly just me "declaring" Ranze is a problem user. The AN/I thread started by
LM2000 and
Crash Underride led to his third topic ban- and we see the same patterns, denying the authenticity and legitimacy of the topic bans, claiming to be misrepresented in the evidence, dumping unreliable and non-notable sources.
Ribbet32 (
talk) 00:17, 19 November 2016 (UTC)reply
I honestly don't see how Ranze hasn't been blocked yet for this crap. He's been topic banned three times now. Really? How many times until he's blocked and told not to create any re-directs? This needs to be taken care of, this is getting tiresome. Oh and if no one noticed Delete. (talk page stalker)CrashUnderride 06:31, 19 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Crash is I believe well aware that my topic ban against creating redirects began 13 September 2016. I created
pussy crushing on 23 November 2015, over 9 months prior to the restrictions. People don't get banned for editing in an area of topic ban prior to the ban being enacted. This is why it should be mandatory when nominating RFD to state the date the redirect was created, so people don't jump to conclusions like this.
Ranze (
talk) 17:30, 21 November 2016 (UTC)reply
@
Ribbet32: I'm confused by this 'three times' thing. There was the gamergate ban a year ago and then... are you counting the simultaneous September wrestling/redirect as two distinct times or am I forgetting one? I've never heard the PC term used in porn, South Park was the first time I heard it and when I looked into it, the other sources on the matter are complaints about college bro culture, not pornography. It has prior use outside South Park so we should consider rather than deletion if we could use these sources on another page. Perhaps in
Category:2010s slang. I don't know if creating an entire
crushing pushy page (as the above Deadspin article from 2012 I cited, predating South Park, phrases the expression) is worth it, but if we could consolidate terms like this into a list?
Ranze (
talk) 17:30, 21 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete although around
since 2008ish, that slur didn't gain more than a weak dictionary entry, especially not a South Park uniqueness or predominance. --
SI 19:22, 21 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete Despite mentioning this obviously useless redirect in that AN/I thread, I chose not to bring it to RfD so as not to elevate tensions. In recent months, I've gone out of my way to not interact with him to alleviate the situation. The topic ban should have been a wake-up call but unfortunately that hasn't the case. We're back at it with the dumping of poor sources and he's currently adding inappropriate nicknames to
Hillary Clinton (Shillary) and others, despite having previously been warned that pejoratives should not be redirects (
The Man That Mother Nature Forgot To Make Good-Looking). Enough is enough!
LM2000 (
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The result of the discussion was delete.
Deryck C. 10:07, 25 November 2016 (UTC)reply
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سێو
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The result of the discussion was Delete all (As
Deryck Chan accidentally deleted the redirects, I assume it is safe to wrap up this RfD as delete. No objection to DRV if needed at any given time (non-admin closure) - CHAMPION(
talk) (
contributions) (
logs) 22:30, 24 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment:
Godsy, do you speak these languages? I don't at all; I must rely entirely on Google Translate. But Google's having trouble with all of these titles. The first one is identified as Pashto, and is translated as "sێw". The second one (بەڕوو) it says is Arabic for "Bەڕoo". The third (زانا) is supposedly Persian and translates as "Zana". And the last one (ئارڤین، کالیفۆرنیا) Google says is Urdu, and translates it as "Yarڤyn, kalyfۆrnya" which, if you squint, sorta kinda sounds like its target.
Most likely, this is all one language that Google can't deal with. But maybe we should ask the creator what was meant? Or if they're not around, we need to get some speakers of this/these language(s) to take a look. —
Gorthian (
talk) 08:05, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
It doesn't really matter: they really have no "affinity" as we generally call it for the target; or as other people put it "not particularly Arabic" (or whatever language). While it is sometimes useful to keep foreign-language terms that are closely related to the subject in various ways (from history, etymology, and so on),
WP:NOTDIC and
WP:FORRED often mean a Delete is more sensible.
Si Trew (
talk) 08:26, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Argh, it's probably
Sorani—most of the articles that user works on are Kurdish subjects. Google, unfortunately, can't tell Sorani from
Sarani. —
Gorthian (
talk) 08:14, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
(
edit conflict) @
Gorthian: I don't speak a word of whatever language these redirects are in. I suspect they are of the
Central Kurdish language or
Arabic, because the creator has tagged other redirects they've created as such, and by looking at the userboxes on their userpage.
Champion left a
note on the talk page of the creator, in relation to their creation of foreign language redirects, perhaps they might have some insight into this matter.—
Godsy (
TALKCONT) 08:23, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
More likely Central Kurdish (
Sorani language, written in the
Sorani alphabet, because of the abundance of vowels. I'm only inferring that from basic linguistic knowledge, though. It looks like
زانا has significantly different meanings in different languages written in (loosely) the Arabic script: I'm really not sure these are anything but
WP:RFD#D2 confusing as a
WP:SURPRISE when there's no info about the terms at their respective targets, again, we encounter the problem of
false friends if they mean different things in different foreign languages they essentially end up as being
WP:XY.
Si Trew (
talk) 08:37, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete allWP:RFFL (I don't remember leaving a note on the creator's talk page hmm............) - CHAMPION(
talk) (
contributions) (
logs) 09:13, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep: Dear, all this redirects are from
Central Kurdish (Sorani). I don't see any matters with this redirects. I want to keep it, because they redirected to right articles, and there are many redirects from other languages.
Serchia (
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Sorry guys. I've accidentally deleted this batch of redirects because I misread the nomination date while testing a new version of closerfd.js. I think this is leaning strongly towards delete but I'll leave the RfD open for now...
Deryck C. 12:28, 23 November 2016 (UTC)reply
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Liu4-Si4 Shi4jian4
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The result of the discussion was delete. --
BDD (
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We don't have similar redirects like this, note that the tone marks are omitted and replaced with numbers, also note that the first word comprising two characters is hyphenated while the second is not. Usually it will be written like
Liùsì shìjiàn or with the tone marks omitted, as in
Liusi shijian. - CHAMPION(
talk) (
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logs) 06:28, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Weak delete. Hmmm. This is pretty ancient, January 2005, and has sat quietly in its corner ever since. It's the only contribution by this IP editor (but perhaps they signed up soon after). Stats are at 14 hits in the last year (366 days), i.e. about once every 26 days on average.
Si Trew (
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@
Patar knight: I have said that one of the phrases in hyphenated and the other isn't, I know full well that numbers are used to romanize Chinese, but there is a mistake that makes this implausible. - CHAMPION(
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Delete. The hyphen is acceptable (see
Pinyin#Orthographic rules: Numbers representing month and day are hyphenated). The numbers are a correct way of rendering the tones where diacritics typing is not available, but this practice is not considered standard orthography. Ultimately I don't think a reader will reasonably search like that so I see little benefit in keeping this redirect.
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35 May 1989
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Section 1 of the target, "Names", says " To bypass
internet censorship in China, which uniformly considers all the above-mentioned names too 'Sensitive' for search engines and public forums, alternative names have sprung up to describe the events on the Internet, such as May 35th"...
So, I'm saying keep it. While 35 May might refer to something else, the 1989 essentially disambiguates it and this gets people (except perhaps people in China?) to where they want to go.
Si Trew (
talk) 07:40, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep. @
Champion: You may like to read a bit further about the background:
[12][13]Deryck C. 10:47, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
As a Chinese, I've never heard it mentioned this way before. - CHAMPION(
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logs) 22:04, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
As Wikipedians we learn something new every day...!
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مۆز
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Not present at the target. Seemingly no special affinity for the language in relation to the topic.
WP:RFOREIGN. —
Godsy (
TALKCONT) 06:46, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment. Which language? Gtrans detects it as
Kurmanji language (Northern Kurdish) and translates it as
masipata; Wiktionary marks "masipata" written in Latin alphabet as
Chamicuro language (an endangered indigenous South American language which may be the same as the extinct
Aguano language), meaning "banana". This seems rather a leap... or is it good Arabic script for another language? For Arabic, Persian etc it just returns "M ۆ Z" or similar; Wikipedia doesn't seem to have the word "masipata" anywhere.
Si Trew (
talk) 08:13, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
SimonTrew, I believe it's
Sorani, which Google doesn't understand. (See my comments at
#سێو) —
Gorthian (
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(
edit conflict) www.omegawiki.org/Expression:muz translates banana as "muz" in
Turkish language, but Turkish has used the Latin alphabet since 1922; it also transliterates the Northern Kurdish as
moz, which is a DAB with no mention of bananas, and the Tajik as
моз. Muz is something completely different.
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Green bananas
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Retarget to
banana#ripening, though I must say this is very much a
WP:XY. "Green bananas" are discussed in
banana peel,
banana flour, and in endless recipes cuisine articles. There's a
green banana cockroach and a
green banana region. But the unripe fruit is the origin of all of those, so they should point to the closest to that source that we have. —
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Baking banana
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The result of the discussion was delete.
Deryck C. 14:06, 28 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment. I've split this out from the nomination below, because it has a much longer history (since 12 November 2007). Hope that's OK.
Si Trew (
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Delete. There isn't a classification of bananas called baking bananas so this is a bit of an
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The result of the discussion was delete.
Deryck C. 13:52, 28 November 2016 (UTC)reply
I can't find anything that says an ellipsis was ever part of the name, and it makes this unlikely as a search term. —
Gorthian (
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Comment. To be clear (and pedantic), from a purely technical point of view this is not an
ellipsis (
…) in the name but just three consecutive stop marks… that being said, searching for "Pin…" with the ellipsis symbol proper goes directly to this page anyway (and so would redirect were it not for the RfD banner).
Pin… is red.
Si Trew (
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Delete per nom. I don't see the stylization used on the film.
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Testostertones
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The result of the discussion was delete.
Deryck C. 18:42, 28 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Was once an article, but after an
AFD, was redirected. Now there's no mention of it in either the original target or in the present one. There are at least seven different schools on Wikipedia that have this name for a musical group, so it becomes an
WP:XY issue. Delete. —
Gorthian (
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@
Patar knight: This isn't a plural, but a deliberate misspelling, a pun on the hormone: Testostertones.
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Bangla-desh
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The result of the discussion was Speedily deleted. This was pretty certainly heading for deletion anwya, but there is no need to wait, as it was created by a block-evading sockpuppeteeer, who has a number of sockpuppet accounts globally locked due to persistent cross-wiki abuse. The editor who uses the pseudonym "
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Is this plausible?
Mr. Guye (
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Delete. As far as I can tell from a quick search, not plausable as a search term in the sense that anyone else has ever written it this way, though certainly novel (created yesterday). In fact, if you put it into Special:Search the first result is for
Bangla Desh (song), not for
Bangladesh.
The target article states "The name Bangladesh was originally written as two words, Bangla Desh" (its italics) in Section 1, Etymology, and we have a redirect Bangla Desh which I have tagged as {{
R from former name}}. I guess in its absense people would be taken straight to Bangladesh anyway, because the search engine is generally case-insensitive and treats hyphens as spaces.
Bangla Desh was created as an article about a George Harrison song way back in 2006, then merged with
Bangla Desh (song) in 2008 (same subject), but this redirect wasn't changed to the current target until 2011. I don't think it's
WP:XY with the song; for example there's been no proposed move of the redirect at
Bangla Desh (song) over
Bangla Desh when perhaps it would become so.
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Assumptioncollegeofdavao
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Left from a page move; the article was at this title all of two weeks. Seems an unlikely search term, and I don't see any use for it. —
Gorthian (
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Comment. I've taken this
WP:G6 housekeeping, considering hits are 15 in 90 days and there are no internal links beyond this discussion.
Si Trew (
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SimonTrew, we'll see how it goes. It wasn't created recently at all (2008), but it only existed at this title for two weeks (no chance to build up links to it). But its age is why I didn't go for a CSD.—
Gorthian (
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Sure. I don't tend to regard the fact "it's been around for a while" as some kind of ace of trumps with these things; otherwise we could just never change anything.
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Adult themes and mature themes in TV-shows
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Delete Seems like an axe-grind RD; these themes are definitely not limited to animated series by any means, and it's just plain too long to be plausible (the dash between TV and shows is the nail in the coffin here). Nate•(
chatter) 02:44, 18 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom. What's with the hyphen on TV-shows?
AngusWOOF (
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Delete - This is an awkwardly worded (especially with the hyphen for TV shows) redirect that really doesn't seem useful.
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Provincial sport of East Pakistan
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I'm not sure if this is a bit misleading, really. While
East Pakistan, the former name for
Bangladesh, doesn't mention sport at all. It's prominent also a prominent section (1.1) of
Sport in Bangladesh: not surprsingly, since it's the national sport of Bangladesh, but it's also in the second sentence of the lede at
Sport in Pakistan. There, it has its own section (28, but that seems to be arranged alphabetically). So this might all be a bit
WP:XY, but on balance I think it best to retarget it to
Sport in Bangladesh unless it is really intended to mean sport in specificallyy the Eastern
provinces of Pakistan (in which case it should be deleted per
WP:REDLINK). I couldn't find any "Traditional sports of/in..." titles except one for the United Arab Emirates.
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Abecedarian Books, Inc.
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Within a few hours in 2005, this title went from an advertising blurb, to a stub, to a redirect (to
vanity press). Then in 2012, someone thought that was too derogatory and retargeted it to
self publishing. No matter, this company is not mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia. Delete as useless. —
Gorthian (
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Delete. Stats are well below noise level (17 in the last 366 days before yesterday), no internal links beyond this discussion. It's not really useful for any kind of historical reason when (a) no external sites are actually being clicked through to look for it and (b) even if they did, considering its history the chances are they'd get something different from when the link was set up.
Si Trew (
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Delete - I don't see a good reason to keep this.
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Indus Valley Plains of Pakistan
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