- Sorry I can't quite do a full review at this stage: it's my lunch break, and it's about to end! I will talk about the table itself and the notes later, although a brief look offers up no concerns or questions. As with other John Douglas lists, very little needs to be changed: another well-designed and comprehensive list.
- All eternal links are fine; no disambig links in place.
- NOTES FOR OTHER REVIEWERS
- In case anybody wondered why the little globes next to the coordinates suddenly disappear about halfway down, apparently there is a glitch with {{Template:Coord}} at the moment. See
here for discussion.
- I discussed the title with Peter soon after he created the list, and again later. The current title replaced a possibly more elegant but less accurate title which referred to "miscellaneous works". It is very difficult to convey the necessary information about such a wide variety of structures in a title which remains both readable and encyclopaedic: alternative suggestions or comments would be welcome.
- I remember you worked on the houses list most recently. I think paragraph 2 of the lead has been copied over to this list without tweaking the text, as it still refers to houses. I suggest recasting the last sentence of that paragraph to reflect the geographical distribution of the works that are discussed in this list.
- ...major, or more unusual, works... and Less usual structures... could be considered POV-ish without attribution. (I know you're trying to make the point that these are unusual in relation to his main body of work, i.e. churches and houses, but one could argue that a bridge is no less usual than a cheese factory, and so on...) Perhaps try something like: Douglas's major works, excluding churches or houses, or structures relating to them, are described here. Maybe Less usual structures designed by Douglas are... could become something like Other commissions include....
- I take the latter suggestion and have changed it more or less along the lines you suggest. The first is more difficult. I struggled with this when I wrote it. Your suggestion does not say what I want to say; and to give a full explanation in the body of the text would interfere too much with the flow. So what I've done is to add a footnote trying to explain why I've included what I've included. Does this work; and is it satisfactory in this context?
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- Check for typos and use of "the <feature>" instead of the more appropriate "a <feature>". Examples taken from the first 12 pics:
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Eastgate Clock: ...carries is clock... and ...carrying and inscription.
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Eccleston School: with a house to the left and a school to the right woulld be better.
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Waverton School: same as Eccleston School.
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Wrexham Road Farm: ...showing a farmhouse on the left and farm buildings... would be better.
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Peers Memorial, Ruthin: sqaure → square.
- I've dealt with the above and had another look through the alt text, making more amendments.
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- Because listing is not a static process, this would be better worded as "—" denotes a work that is not graded.
- GOOGLE AND BING MAP LINKS
- ...are working correctly.
- REFS (in all cases, I'm using the current ref number as at 13:46, 28 January 2010 (UTC))
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Hassocks
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- Thanks for all the detailed comments and advice. I'm always surprised that when you think you've checked everything, you haven't!
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- All changes look fine. I'm happy with the explanation provided in the footnote regarding "major" and "unusual". Hope to add comments about the table itself and the notes tomorrow (probably lunchtime), but I don't think much will need changing. Cheers,
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Apologies that I couldn't do this on Friday as expected. Here are my comments (mostly minor stuff) on the table itself:
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- I'll go through from the top.
- Boteler Grammar School
- The school was a building in brick with stone dressings having a central tower with a pyramidal roof. Awkward ("the school was a building..."). Perhaps The school was built of brick with stone dressings, and had.... Also, the "Corporation Works Department": was that for the
Development Corporation of the New Town by any chance? If so, suggest a piped link to that article. (If you can't find info to support that in the refs, don't worry.)
- Text amended as suggested. The Corporation Works Department would have been that of the town or borough (not sure which) council; the
Warrington Development Corporation came later.
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Billy Hobby's Well
- Blurb reads as though the spring was built for the 2nd M. of w. Try Douglas' work, for the 2nd Marquess of Westminster, consists....
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St Werburgh Chambers, Chester and
St Werburgh's Mount, Chester
- Do you have any more info. on who G. Hodgkinson was? The name on its own leaves the reader wondering. Perhaps just add his client in one of the blurbs.
- No idea. I've added "his client" to both blurbs (because of sorting).
- Aldford Cheese Factory
- Shame about its obscurity. I had a look on Google and found little as well (although apparently the Flintshire Record Office holds/held a copy of its Rules and Regulations book from 1890!).
- Frustrating. I included it because it was a second cheese factory, and not Douglas' usual sphere of work (although I suspect its architecture would have been "typically" Douglas, as is the Balderton factory).
- Cottage Hospital
- Even more frustrating. The present community hospital looks like
this, obviously modern and not Douglas. Its address is Ash Grove. Hubbard (Buildings of Wales) says "now l. [left] into GWERNAFFIELD ROAD and past Douglas's COTTAGE HOSPITAL ..." The community hospital is some 300m from the nearest part of Gwernaffield Road. But there are recent references to "Mold Cottage Hospital" - minutes of meetings and reports of deaths. I suspect that Douglas' hospital has closed (does it still exist?) and has been replaced by the community hospital. "Gwernaffield Road" added to location and notes amended.
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Grosvenor Club and North and South Wales Bank
- frieze containing sounds odd. Try "with" instead.
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Castle Hotel, Conwy
- Use of the passive voice makes it unclear what work Douglas did: was it the whole remodelling?
- Reworded. Does this work?
- School
- Does Hubbard have any more info about who William Jones was? (Don't worry if not.)
- No. Included because of its unusual distance from Douglas' office.
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Lyceum, Port Sunlight
- Diapering has a broken wilikink.
- Corrected (sorry, thought I had already done this).
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Public baths, Chester
- Mixed singular and plural ("were"; "is").
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Eastgate Clock
- The first sentence is a sentence fragment, which can be eliminated by putting a comma after Jubilee or (better) adding something like This was at the start.
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30 Bridge Street, Chester
- Passive voice; clarify whether Douglas was responsible for the original building or the rebuilding.
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