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Nominator(s): The Night Watch (talk) 19:22, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply

This article is about a video game that was the last add-on to Shovel Knight. After my last FAC was archived, I've decided to revisit the Shovel Knight franchise to see if there is room for a Featured article somewhere. So let's start small with the last of the expansions, an interesting party game that was not as impactful as TowerFall or Smash Bros., but is still worth a quick visit. What the article lacks in prose size I believe it makes up with comprehensiveness. I look forward to your comments. The Night Watch (talk) 19:22, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Comments from Skyshifter

Will comment soon. Skyshifter talk 22:53, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Infobox and lead

  • The infobox says the genre is "platform", but the lead begins with "is a fighting game".
Fixed
Linked to Artificial intelligence in video games
  • Could add the year of release after the games cited, i.e. Mega Man 7 (1995).
Done
  • "The game received average reviews on release" — as the Switch version received "generally favorable reviews" according to Metacritic, "favorable to average reviews" could be an option here.
I chose "average reviews" to avoid the problem around WP:VG/MIXED, which says that we should avoid summarizing reviews with the terms "mixed to positive" or "mixed to negative", which probably includes "favorable to average reviews" as well, though I can change it to just "mixed" if you think that would be more appropriate.

Skyshifter talk 23:17, 9 May 2024 (UTC) reply

@ Skyshifter follow-up ping. The Night Watch (talk) 15:03, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Apply the suggestion of adding the year of release after the games throughout the article.

Gameplay

  • Ok

Development and release

  • "comparing it to Super Smash Bros." → "comparing it to the Super Smash Bros. games" so it is clearer that the comparison is to the games and Super Smash Bros. refers to the series
  • "Chester's Choice allows the player ..." I feel like this specific sentence should be in Gameplay
  • "for the mode from Mario Party" → "for the mode from the Mario Party games", similarly to the above
  • "release date on April 9, 2019"; "on" → "of"; currently this could be interpreted as the delay being announced on April 9, 2019
  • "on December 10, 2019" the year can be removed, as it was just mentioned

Reception

  • Add the OpenCritic assessment to the prose. I'd also change the 38% in the table to "38% recommend" as in OneShot, but this is optional.
  • You should introduce the reviews' authors, e.g. "Zachary Miller of Nintendo World Report"...
  • Link USgamer
  • Link Nintendo Life
  • "but said that the had a narrative" — missing word here I believe
  • "A few reviewers called the boss battle a highlight" → "A few reviewers highlighted the boss battle"
  • You use "reviewers" multiple times in this section, but "critics" one single time. I recommend changing some instances of "reviewers" to "critics".

References (formatting)

  • There's a formatting error on ref 12
  • Add italics to the game's name on ref 16
  • Link Vandal (website) on ref 17

Skyshifter talk 17:48, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Aoba47

Reworded
  • I do not thin "originally" is needed in this part, (Yacht Club Games originally envisioned Showdown), as I believe that it could be understood with "envisioned" that these plans changed along the way.
Cut that word
  • This part, (while the single-player mode received a negative response, many reviewers criticizing its difficulty balancing) reads a little off to me. I understand the meaning, but it may be better to make these negative critiques into their own sentence.
Split into its own sentence
  • Apologies in advance if this is obvious, but should the platforms be mentioned in the lead? I was just curious as I can see it in the infobox and the article itself, but it is not present in the lead.
I added the platforms to the lead
  • I would add WP:ALT text to the infobox image as well as the screenshot.
Done
  • I do have a comment about this sentence: (The plot of the mode takes place after the narrative of Shovel Knight: Specter of Torment, where Specter Knight's friends attempt to defeat the Enchantress by imprisoning her in a magic mirror.) I originally read this as meaning the magic mirror plot happened in Spector of Torment, but only later realized that is not the case. I would adjust it to something like (Set after the events of Shovel Knight: Specter of Torment, the plot of the mode is about Specter Knight's friends attempting to defeat the Enchantress by imprisoning her in a magic mirror.)
Done
  • I have a comment for this part, (calling it "somewhere between Smash Bros.") I was initially confused by the quote as it felt incomplete (i.e. between Smash Bros. and what?). I looked at the source and the quote is accurate, but I am wondering if perhaps paraphrasing it would avoid such confusion. Maybe something like (comparing it to Smash Bros.) or (saying it is similar to Smash Bros.)
Changed to "compared to Smash Bros"
  • Was there any reason given for the delay in the release date?
They delayed it so that they could refine the game, added a sentence clarifying.
  • I have a clarification question about this sentence: (Other reviewers considered some characters too powerful.) Did either of these two sources provide examples of this? I was just curious if there was a way to briefly expand upon this.
Nintendo World Report said that large characters like Polar Knight could be too powerful, though I rephrased it to more clearly state that the reviewers had trouble with the balancing.
  • I have a question about this part, (added that the minigames in the campaign). Apologies if I had missed this in an earlier section. What are these "minigames"? I was under the impression that the campaign was mostly fighting á la Mortal Kombat.
They were parts of the campaign that the player needed to progress, such as a section where the player had to shoot targets that moved around the screen. Should I include their existence in Gameplay?
If possible, I would include them in the "Gameplay" section to clarify this part and to give readers a more complete understanding of the campaign mode. Aoba47 ( talk) 16:23, 15 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • I would italicize the game title (and any other game titles) in citation titles per WP:CONFORMTITLE.
Italicized

I hope that this review is helpful. Once everything has been addressed, I will read through the article again to make sure I have not missed anything. Best of luck with this FAC. Aoba47 ( talk) 16:15, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Draken Bowser

Short and to the point, which is reassuring since it's a DLC. This could be stated a bit more clearly though. The lead introduces the game as an "add-on", and I'm not sure the article elaborates on this at any point.

Lead

  • "where players battle one another to collect the most gems that appear on a stage, to a free for all setting where players engage in a battle to the death." -- shorter, which would make the lead perhaps a bit too short and allow for a slight expansion.
  • I'd prefer including the DLC acronym here as well.

Gameplay

  • "a unique type of movement" -- does this refer to a broader "movement set" or a unique "movement ability/skill"?
  • "range" -- like the GA-reviewer I don't think this is the best way to introduce these characters

Development and release

  • "its original planned release date" -- I don't think both are required.

Regards. Draken Bowser ( talk) 09:27, 17 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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