The Lyon-class battleships were the 1915 tranche of a French naval expansion program begun in 1912. Their design had not been finalized before the beginning of the First World War in August 1914 and their consequent cancellation. Parsecboy and I have recently overhauled this article in preparation and it passed a
MilHist A-class review earlier this month. As usual, we'd like for reviewers to check for any stray bits of BritEng, unlinked or unexplained jargon and infelicitous prose.--
Sturmvogel 66 (
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19:18, 30 August 2019 (UTC)reply
"Design work on the vessels to follow the Normandies began in 1912; the design staff submitted several proposals for the new battleships, with displacements ranged from 27,000 metric tons (26,574 long tons) to 29,000 t (28,542 long tons).[3] " likely "ranged" should be "ranging".
Good catch.
" In addition, the design staff determined the 38 cm gun would take too long to design, so the proposals that incorporated these weapons were cancelled and one of the two 34 cm proposals was selected." possibly "cancelled" should be "rejected" and I would change the end of the sentence "one of the two 34 cm proposals was selected." to "officials chose between the two 34 cm proposals" so as to lead into the next sentence better.
That is a better wording.
You are not consistent in whether you capitalise Normandie in "Normandie-class".
You sure? Searching for normandie showed all of them capitalized.
Oops, meant "italicise".
Is there any later or contextual information, such as similar ships built later, or did the designs influence later ships?
War experience had proven that their design was thoroughly obsolete and they had no influence on the subsequent Dunkerque class of the 1930s.
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Parsecboy: Seriously? Your ping is like the 7th ping I got from you and PM about my comments in nominations today alone. I guess I was that busy with the drive. Change it as support. I have to try to come back to my routine of reviewing. Cheers.
CPA-5 (
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19:37, 3 October 2019 (UTC)reply
Sources review
No spotchecks carried out
Formats
Check publication date of Gardner. WorldCat does not list a 1984 edition (WorldCat is not infallible in these matters)
Crap, it's correct. That's going to be an error perpetuated all over our articles.
O'Brien 2001: WorldCat gives publisher location for this ibsn as Southgate
The book shows London and Portland, Oregon.
Quality/reliability: no issues, sources appear to meet the requisite FA criteria.
Not sure that I should really thank you for catching the problem with Gardner considering the amount of work that it's going to cause to find them all, but I will anyway.--
Sturmvogel 66 (
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16:35, 5 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Support after some copyedits I made. Well done, I know how hard it can be to find adequate information on never-built ships. Was the choice of four different shipyards due to the need to pump out battleships as fast as possible?
Ed[talk][majestic titan]22:09, 3 October 2019 (UTC)reply
I haven't seen anything that addresses it, but it's fairly common for contracts to be divided between different shipyards, regardless of navy (apart from
the foreign contracts like those with which you're familiar.) - in fact, it tends to be the exception, rather than the norm, that a single shipyard gets all the contracts (for instance,
Blohm & Voss got all of the battlecruiser contracts in Imperial Germany up to
SMS Lützow, and Ansaldo was not happy about being squeezed out of the Italian heavy cruiser projects in the 1930s by OTO and STT, so they pressured the government to build
Bolzano)
Parsecboy (
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18:28, 4 October 2019 (UTC)reply
Llammakey
One minor quibble. "Normandie-class ship" in the first paragraph of the characteristics section needs to be italicized.