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21 February 2017

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Kerry Lee Crawford ( talk| | history| logs| links| watch) ( XfD| restore)

The page was deleted today with the claim that the page had already a discussion page for deletion and they reached that the page should be deleted. I'm not the author that made the first copy of the article. I built another one and tried to be accurate when it comes to creation, phrasing and citing sources. I was NOT NOTIFIED that the page is proposed for deletion and the page was deleted immediately. I have put a lot of hard work in order to come up with that result. I had a discussion with the admin who deleted it. Till he replies, I tried to create another one with an older version that I had and added {{ underconstruction}} to try to resolve the problem with the admin who deleted it, but it was again deleted immediately and then he responded to me. His claim was that the page is identical to the one that was deleted and that is not true. And that's his claim why he deleted it immediately without notifying me. After creation of the article before that all happened, there is one admin who reviewed my article and I had a notification that says, "The page Kerry Lee Crawford has been reviewed". It has gone after deletion of the article. He was not convinced that happened. When asking him what is wrong with the article, he kept telling that my article is identical to the one that was deleted by another author and referred me to the deletion discussion of it. I tried to defend my claim that he was notable by mentioning that he was featured on CKFG-FM (already has a wikipedia page), CityNews (already has a wikipedia page) ,but received no response regarding this point. Now my work is gone without even notifying and I think that is pure vandalism. If he is doing his work, which I appreciate, give me my right to even discuss issues with my work. If I have a misconception regarding Wikipedia rules, I'd be more than happy to understand. Thanks you. Khaled Abolaynain ( talk) 23:00, 21 February 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Endorse deletion - Per WP:NOTINHERITED and per the consensus on the AFD page. I was featured on an CNN article back in 2011. Despite that claim to fame, I am not notable. Yoshiman6464 ♫🥚 23:33, 21 February 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Request temp undelete of Khaled Abolaynain's new version, and of the old version, to whether it is much improved. -- SmokeyJoe ( talk) 23:54, 21 February 2017 (UTC) reply
    • SmokeyJoe - For your benefit, I've undeleted the version previously deleted and the one specified by Khaled above. In my opinion, although the grammar is slightly improved from the first version, the additions make it sound even more promotional. Deb ( talk) 13:50, 22 February 2017 (UTC) reply
        • Thanks Deb, but can to point me to them? Which is which? -- SmokeyJoe ( talk) 00:48, 25 February 2017 (UTC) reply
          • Sorry, you're too late. Another admin deleted them as promotional within a day of my putting them back. Deb ( talk) 13:17, 25 February 2017 (UTC) reply
      • Deb, I think someone deleted it before I had a chance to look at it. Can you please get the version that I specified back? Khaled Abolaynain ( talk) 16:00, 22 February 2017 (UTC) reply
        • SmokeyJoe, did you reach something regarding the page?
  • Okay, that would be the deleted (12:24, 21 February 2017) article, SmokeyJoe. Yoshiman6464, please consider that I didn't get even a chance to be educated and get feedback about what may have been wrong with my article. Khaled Abolaynain ( talk) 00:08, 22 February 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Also, please see the long exchange between this user and myself as to the reasons for deletion, on both his talk page and mine. Deb ( talk) 09:11, 22 February 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Endorse deletion, I'm a little baffled that the nominator claims they "didn't get even a chance to be educated" when their talk tage shows that Deb responded to them several times. Regardless, the consensus to delete arrived at at the AFD was unquestionably the correct outcome. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 21:33, 22 February 2017 (UTC) reply
    • The talk that we had, me and Deb, was after the article was already deleted. There was no consensus regarding my version of the article. Khaled Abolaynain ( talk) 21:49, 22 February 2017 (UTC) reply
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.
The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Paul Joseph Watson ( talk| | history| logs| links| watch) ( XfD| restore)

Paul Joseph Watson had appeared as the primary focus in recent reliable sources, especially in a recent BBC article called Alt-right editor challenges journalists to visit Sweden as well as a Business Insider article entitled Inaccurate InfoWars report leads 100,000 to sign petition for Comedy Central to fire comedian it doesn’t employ. When the article was last proposed on 12 July 2016, there weren't many articles that focused primarilly on Watson. Yoshiman6464 ♫🥚 15:05, 21 February 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Got anything else? Right now it would be a poorly sourced negative BLP with minimal biographical data. At best it's borderline for meeting the GNG. And the negative BLP thing makes me want to err on not having an article. Hobit ( talk) 17:58, 21 February 2017 (UTC) reply
  • These new sources are not direct non-trivial coverage of the reporter, instead he is mentioned as part of a bigger story. Are these bigger stories covered in other articles, and do they warrant more than a mention of Watson? Do they mention Watson? I don't see him passing WP:BIO, but if there is any hope, you should ask for userfication, build a better article, before asking again. -- SmokeyJoe ( talk) 00:01, 22 February 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Endorse but allow userfication. Per above, I don't see this passing WP:BIO I'm afraid. Alternatively, you can userfy the article to work on it outside the article space. Class455 ( talk| stand clear of the doors!) 12:53, 22 February 2017 (UTC) reply
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.
The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Exadel ( talk| | history| logs| links| watch) ( XfD| restore)

<Article Exadel was deleted without any explanations, despite the fact that it was updated with new links and I expected feedback on my corrections. Admin Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus wrote: "you can request that it is instead moved to your sandbox for future refining. If the conclusion is that the company is not notable now, it could become notable later, so your work wouldn't have to be wasted." So according to his advice, I wrote request to move this article to Sandbox. Instead , it got deleted without even further discussions. Regardless, I have added new good links and nobody answered wheather they are ok or not! Could you please help to move the article to Sandbox or if possible, just send me the source code of it, because I spent a lot of efforts to create it and now I don't even have any copy of it. Natallia Sasava ( talk) 09:49, 21 February 2017 (UTC) reply

The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.