Category:17th-century executions by the Province of New York
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Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge. There's no need to have a category like this with just a single person in it.
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Category:Women prime ministers of Finland
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Category:Women prime ministers of the United Kingdom
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Keep Cautiously, this category does already have three entries, and it would be an awkward judgement that we are unlikely to have another female PM soon.
PatGallacher (
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@
PatGallacher, not saying there won't be, just that the category's scope is too narrow.
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Category:NRISref errors
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Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of MyrtaBeautyQueen
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Nominator's rationale: An older sockmaster was discovered after this category was created. It is helpful to have all the socks in one category for understanding and analyzing long-term abuse. ☆ Bri (
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Support this does not appear controversial, surely it should be nodded through? 🇺🇦
FiddleTimtrentFaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 22:30, 27 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Comment: If it has been established by the
WT:SPI crew (can any documentation of this be shown?), then maybe someone can educate me if this might even qualify for a
Speedy merger, since I am a newbie at the procedural side of Wiki. –
Konanen (
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I'm the CU who connected MyrtaBeautyQueen to DevilBlack69. I just reviewed the notes and can't see any reason these categories shouldn't be merged. Go for it. Note that the category assignments are actually done via the {{sock}} templates on the user pages, so what you really need to do is update all those templates; I would suggest leaving a link to this discussion in the edit comment when you do that.
RoySmith(talk) 13:46, 28 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Support Not even controversial.
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Category:Caucasus Jews
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Nominator's rationale: There are two Jewish ethnic groups originating from the Caucasus region:
Mountain Jews and
Georgian Jews. The term
Caucasus Jews currently redirects to "Mountain Jews." These two groups are culturally distinct; they speak different languages and have many differences in customs and culture. However, other Jewish communities have also resided and continue to reside in the Caucasus region, including primarily Ashkenazi Jews, as well as some Sephardic and Bukharan Jews. Therefore, this category does not make sense. Currently, this category encompasses Jews from three modern countries, yet "Caucasus Jews" redirects to "Mountain Jews." Note: I have just separated the entries for
category:Jews from Georgia (country) and
category:Georgian Jews.
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Oppose as the nominator's reasoning is convoluted. The problem lies with an editor who has messed with the two topics "Caucasus Jews" and "Mountain Jews" and not with this category which remains valid, and yes Caucasus Jews spreads over a few countries/regions and ethnicities/people.
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Rename to "Jews from the Caucasus" per above discussion.
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The result of the discussion was:speedy delete per author request.
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Category:People by educational institution in Surrey
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Category:Executed people from Surrey
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Merge per nom, although I am not entirely sure of
Category:People from Surrey as a merge target. The article only says his father held possessions there.
Marcocapelle (
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@
Marcocapelle, so should I cut out Surrey then and single merge to "Executed English people"?
Omnis Scientia (
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Will edit the nomination then. Thanks for catching that fact.
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Nominator's rationale: There is only one Autonomous oblast of Russia — the Jewish Autonomous Oblast. No need to have this category, which only has said page and two redirects, when Jewish Autonomous Oblast could be categorized under the cat Federal subjects of Russia.
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Category:Indian novelists by language
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Nominator's rationale: Are these four subcategories supposed to be for ethnic groups or languages? Either way, these people are not necessarily Indian nationals. –
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Support per nom.
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Category:Former universities and colleges of Jesuits
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Nominator's rationale: The current name is not only awkward and not parallel to the name of the related category for current Jesuit institutions ("Jesuit universities and colleges") but its meaning is also unclear.
ElKevbo (
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If someone has a (legitimate) concern that "Former Jesuit" is also ambiguous - does it mean "a university or college that was once a Jesuit institution but is no longer a Jesuit institution" or "a Jesuit university or college that is now closed" ? - then "Formerly Jesuit universities and colleges" would resolve that ambiguity. The category does currently include institutions in both of those situations so this may be important.
ElKevbo (
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It is ambiguous in any case and the distinction between current and former Jesuit is also not enormously important. Manually merge to
Category:Jesuit universities and colleges insofar the articles aren't already in country subcategories.
Marcocapelle (
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@
Marcocapelle: Can you please say more about "the distinction between current and former Jesuit is also not enormously important." In my mind, it's a very important distinction as it indicates a very important shift in the institution's mission, organization, and support.
ElKevbo (
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That's an entirely different subject and you're welcome to establish that category if you feel strongly about it but it doesn't seem terribly relevant to the discussion at hand. And I completely disagree that "the category is primarily useful to learn about the history of the Jesuits" as its primary use is to identify colleges and universities who are identified with that particular religious order. It's less about the history of that order and more about the intended function and role of these colleges and universities.
"Every university or college will eventually be closed or taken over" doesn't seem like a very helpful or productive perspective at all. Every religion will eventually fade into disuse or change until it's unrecognizable. The sun will eventually explore destroying all life and structure on the planet. The universe will eventually fade into heat death. None of that is very useful when considering what we should or should not do here and now in this encyclopedia.
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Category:People educated at Coláiste an Phiarsaigh
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Nominator's rationale: Unneeded category - Only 2 entries which I've added to the school article, Thanks, –
Davey2010Talk 15:09, 10 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Oppose: a list on a single article is no reason to reject a category accomplishing the same task in a different area of the site. Plus, there are now twice as many entries as there were at time of proposal.
QuietHere (
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Lean to delete, attandence of a particular secondary school is not a very defining characteristic of an individual person.
Marcocapelle (
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Please see my reply to Peter James
here, I guess this can be withdrawn although for the record I'm not happy about it nor do I see a point in having duplicate information... But if EN wants duplicate information for the sake of having duplicate information then who am I to get in the way of that. –
Davey2010Talk 10:05, 13 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep. Categories are not superseded by lists. --
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Keep; there are many categories like this.
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Category:People educated at De La Salle College Dundalk
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Oppose: a list on a single article is no reason to reject a category accomplishing the same task in a different area of the site.
QuietHere (
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Lean to delete, attandence of a particular secondary school is not a very defining characteristic of an individual person.
Marcocapelle (
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Please see my reply to Peter James
here, I guess this can be withdrawn although for the record I'm not happy about it nor do I see a point in having duplicate information... But if EN wants duplicate information for the sake of having duplicate information then who am I to get in the way of that. –
Davey2010Talk 10:05, 13 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep. Categories are not superseded by lists. --
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Keep; there are many categories like this.
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Category:People educated at Alcester Grammar School
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Oppose: a list on a single article is no reason to reject a category accomplishing the same task in a different area of the site.
QuietHere (
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Why would we want duplicating information though ?, Why do we need an under-populated category when a list within an article does the same job ?, Also do you have any sort of link that explicitly states duplicating information is fine because if you do I'd happily close this. –
Davey2010Talk 00:16, 11 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Categories are navigational tools, while lists in articles can include way more information. They serve distinct purposes. If we were strict about not repeating any information in different areas of the site, a vast amount of categories would go extinct, including probably all of
Category:Works by creator because most of those also have sections/separate articles just for listing their oeuvre.
QuietHere (
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Lean to delete, attandence of a particular secondary school is not a very defining characteristic of an individual person.
Marcocapelle (
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There are thousands of such categories. Deleting one makes no sense. --
Necrothesp (
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I guess this is one of those things I will never understand, How is a duplicate category "complimentary" when it's literally a duplicate??, Why do we need 2 things of the same thing ?, what is achieved or what is the end goal in having 2 of the same thing ?, I don't get it I truly don't.
Keep. Categories are not superseded by lists. --
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Category:Racionais MC's songs
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Nominator's rationale: Newly created 1-article category.
Gjs238 (
talk) 02:00, 27 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep:
WP:SMALLCAT (deprecated, but still worth pointing to here as I don't think opinions have changed on this part) makes an exception for
Category:Works by creator categories so long as they follow other guidelines, and this one does. Unless the sole entry is itself found deletable (and I have a feeling it wouldn't be) then the category is safe.
QuietHere (
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Keep The one article survived an
AfD. This is proper and expected categorization per
WP:SONG#Categories. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 19:21, 31 May 2024 (UTC)reply
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Delete No reason to isolate this template all alone in its category.
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Category:European Youth Olympic Festival Figure Skating templates
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Nominator's rationale: Do we categorize templates this way?
Gjs238 (
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Delete, the templates are already in established figure skating categories and having just two templates in a new category isn't particularly helpful.
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Category:Nepela Memorial
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Category:Post-theists
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Nominator's rationale: Is this category necessary?
Gjs238 (
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Delete, not a defining characteristic.
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Nominator's rationale: Too little content: only two cats and two articles (and the two cats only have 4 or 6 articles themselves). ―
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Category:Images that survived replaceability discussions
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Nominator's rationale: The category is for all types of files (including e.g. videos), not just images. HouseBlaster (
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I'll add that I am not wedded to the proposed name (they are not really discussions, just a declined F7c). HouseBlaster (
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