Category:Writers from the Colony of South Australia
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Category:House of Schönburg-Waldenburg
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Category:Burial sites of the House of Boniface
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Category:Burial sites of the House of Solms-Braunfels
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Nominator's rationale: Dual merge per smallcat
Mason (
talk) 23:29, 4 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Just delete, the only article is about a town, not about a burial site.
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Category:Burial sites of the House of Saxe-Coburg-Koháry
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Nominator's rationale: small cat
Mason (
talk) 23:26, 4 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Dual merge, also to
Category:House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha-Koháry. I would not have proposed a dual merge if it would concern one or two incidental burials, but in this case it is clearly a family burial site.
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Category:Burial sites of the House of Sponheim
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Category:20th-century House of Habsburg
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Oppose, this is for members of the imperial family, it has its own purpose.
Marcocapelle (
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Oppose This is for members of a specific family, not for an entire country.
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Category:Spanish people in colonial Latin America
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Nominator's rationale:WP:SMALLCAT for an overly narrow and
non-defining intersection of characteristics. We do not have any established scheme of "[US State] women news anchors" for this to be a part of, but Kentucky news anchors don't have any special need for a standalone category that other states don't have -- and since television anchors frequently change employers over the course of their careers, building this out to its natural "every state gets one of these" conclusion would lead to extreme category bloat as individual anchors could have to be categorized for multiple states. So for all of those reasons, this isn't needed for just three people. The
Category:Journalists from Kentucky category isn't large enough to need diffusion at all — and while
Category:American women television journalistsis large enough that some diffusion might be useful, this won't make it any larger because the three people here are all already in that other one alongside this anyway, and an
Category:American women television news anchors vs.
Category:American women television reporters and correspondents split would be a more useful and important and defining distinction than a by-state scheme.
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Category:Writers from the Spanish Empire
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Nominator's rationale: This category is not defining for empires: See Category:Writers from the British Empire
[1]Mason (
talk) 21:15, 4 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Note: the members are now all categorised directly by a more specific nationality. –
FayenaticLondon 08:41, 5 November 2023 (UTC)reply
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Category:Male murder victims
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The result of the discussion was:delete. The arguments for keeping were quite weak -
WP:CATGENDER is the clear policy-based argument here. For such a category to be viable, there would need to be a clearer connection between the gender and the crime.
(non-admin closure)Qwerfjkltalk 17:12, 22 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:WP:CATGENDER. I know there is
Category:Female murder victims, but does this automatically make a male category necessary, and eligible? Parent
Category:Incidents of violence against men states is for "incidents of gender-based
violence against men or boys", and it is a fair to assume that most murders in this category are not gender-related. Deletion because there are a lot of options in
Category:Murder victims under which articles are categorized by features that are actually defining, starting with nationality.
Place Clichy (
talk) 20:44, 4 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Respectfully, I don't think so. All articles should already be in more precise Murder victims categories, no need to flood the root with 1800+ articles. A
PetScan query gives me 150 articles (out of 1,861) that are not there, but many of them are about murders rather than victims (some of them in bothCategory:Female murder victims and
Category:Male murder victims such as
Murder of the Krim siblings). I'm currently browsing the other articles to place them in appropriate geographical categories.
Place Clichy (
talk) 01:51, 5 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete (don't merge) per nom.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 07:32, 5 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep Just because its not "targeted" and or "Gender related" doesnt mean it shouldnt exist. It would be quite sexist to have a category for Women, and not for men.
MassiveMan (
talk) 15:14 11 November 2023 (MST)
That's a complete departure from our guidelines, notably
Categorization by defining characteristics and
WP:CATGENDER: A gender-specific category could be implemented where gender has a specific relation to the topic. [...] Do not create separate categories for male and female occupants of the same position, such as "Male Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom" vs. "Female Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom"..
Place Clichy (
talk) 16:16, 13 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep There are specific patterns of murders linked to the gender of the perpetrator and the victim. –
LaundryPizza03 (
dc̄) 15:47, 13 November 2023 (UTC)reply
@
LaundryPizza03: to clarify, do you mean that this category should be restricted to murders that were gender-motivated? Or where the murderer is of the opposite gender? Currently, a very large majority of the incidents behind this category are not motivated by gender at all (e.g. a politician assassinating another one to take power). In either case, a massive purge should follow.
Place Clichy (
talk) 16:16, 13 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Neither, it's that some types of motives are much more common for male than female victims. –
LaundryPizza03 (
dc̄) 16:18, 13 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Which motives would justify inclusion in the category then, according to you? Or is motive irrelevant, as long as the victim is male?
Place Clichy (
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Category:Bleichröder family
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Nominator's rationale: small cat with 2 family members (a father son pair) no interlanguage links
Mason (
talk) 20:30, 4 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete for now, without objection to recreate the category if more family members will have their own article.
Marcocapelle (
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Nominator's rationale:rename per actual content, and in order to clarify that this is not about people from Prussia proper, the easternmost province of the kingdom.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 16:21, 4 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Prussia only became a kingdom in 1701. The state didn't change much besides the name.
Marcelus (
talk) 20:14, 5 November 2023 (UTC)reply
It certainly did. It used to be a Polish fief and it became a major power in the Holy Roman Empire.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 22:11, 5 November 2023 (UTC)reply
It wasn't a Polish fief since 1657
Marcelus (
talk) 15:14, 7 November 2023 (UTC)reply
It did not become a major power in the Holy Roman Empire until 1701. Until this year "Prussian people" were people from Prussia proper.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 19:14, 7 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Not true. Brandenburg wasn't part of the Kingdom of Prussia until 1806, when the Empire is abolished. I really encourage you to check sources.
Marcelus (
talk) 22:59, 7 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Support, because then there's less ambiguity about what the category is about.
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Category:Liang dynasty Taoists
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Category:Polish-Americans in fiction
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Nominator's rationale:delete, not a defining characteristic of any of the three articles. Just the fact that a main character's name is Kowalski is not a guarantee that it is about Polish diaspora.
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Destroyed religious buildings
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Nominator's rationale: merge for now, currently 1-3 articles in each of these categories, no objection to recreation of any of these categories when they can be better populated.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 12:00, 4 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Support per nom
Mason (
talk) 20:31, 4 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Correct, but I don't think an article about a Hindu temple properly belongs in a category like that.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 12:50, 5 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete. These categories seem to mostly have been attack categories from the start. I had myself added some categories for historical context, but it seems that the creator couldn't care less.
Place Clichy (
talk) 14:40, 13 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Why not merge? Because they're attack categories?
Qwerfjkltalk 17:16, 22 November 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Qwerfjkl: you are correct, I meant to merge to the parent, as nominated. It is the link to the named rulers that is challengeable.
Place Clichy (
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Category:Assyrian emigrants to Sweden
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Nominator's rationale: We do not categorise emigrants by ethnicity, but only by the (former) nationality. The target category applies in all 3 cases. –
FayenaticLondon 08:32, 4 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Merge per nom. The target may be renamed, that is being discussed elsewhere.
Marcocapele (
talk) 11:05, 4 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Support per nom
Mason (
talk) 20:31, 4 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Merge. All 3 articles are already in the target BTW. However, I don't see reliable sources that would really support ethnic or religion categories per
WP:BLPCAT, especially on Imad Chhadeh and Denho Acar.
Place Clichy (
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Category:Temples dedicated to Jagannath
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Support per nom --
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Category:Rao family
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Nominator's rationale: smallcat: one person in family. The interlanguage link also has only one page in it
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Category:Dersffy family
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Category:Jin Yong characters' family trees
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Nominator's rationale: dual merge because is smallcat with only one child category category
Mason (
talk) 01:22, 4 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Dual merge (not split) per nom.
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Category:Images of Sly and the Family Stone
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Nominator's rationale: dual merge: one image in category.
Mason (
talk) 01:20, 4 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Dual merge (not split) per nom.
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Category:Lorántffy family
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Category:Roller coasters manufactured by Herschend Family Entertainment
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Category:Parkhurst family
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@
Marcocapelle: the nomination was for deletion. Do you have a merge target in mind, or did you mean to write Delete per nom?HouseBlastertalk 03:29, 12 November 2023 (UTC)reply
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Category:Expatriates from Spanish Cuba
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Nominator's rationale: overlapping with Cuban expatriates, where regime isn't defining.
Mason (
talk) 00:14, 4 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Merge, the only article is about an embassador long after the Spanish had left Cuba.
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