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Category:Writers from the Colony of South Australia

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:19th-century Australian writers and Category:Writers from South Australia and Category:Colony of South Australia people. (non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 ( d ) 21:10, 12 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Duel merge regime isn't defining Mason ( talk) 23:42, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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Category:House of Schönburg-Waldenburg

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Schönburg family. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 03:26, 12 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: 1 family member, upmerge to parent family Mason ( talk) 23:35, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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Category:Burial sites of the House of Boniface

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:House of Boniface. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 03:27, 12 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: smallcat Mason ( talk) 23:30, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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Category:Burial sites of the House of Solms-Braunfels

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 ( d ) 21:19, 12 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Dual merge per smallcat Mason ( talk) 23:29, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Just delete, the only article is about a town, not about a burial site. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:16, 5 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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Category:Burial sites of the House of Saxe-Coburg-Koháry

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Burial sites of the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha and Category:House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha-Koháry. (non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 ( d ) 21:20, 12 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: small cat Mason ( talk) 23:26, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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Category:Burial sites of the House of Sponheim

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:House of Sponheim. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 03:27, 12 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: 1 page Mason ( talk) 23:24, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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Category:20th-century House of Habsburg

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 ( d ) 21:11, 12 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: overlapping category Mason ( talk) 22:45, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose, this is for members of the imperial family, it has its own purpose. Marcocapelle ( talk) 23:04, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Oppose This is for members of a specific family, not for an entire country. Dimadick ( talk) 06:14, 5 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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Category:Spanish people in colonial Latin America

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 ( d ) 21:11, 12 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining category that's underpopulated. Mason ( talk) 21:39, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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Category:Writers from Spanish Cuba

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 22#Category:Writers from Spanish Cuba

Category:Kentucky women news anchors

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The result of the discussion was: merge all. (non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 ( d ) 21:21, 12 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT for an overly narrow and non-defining intersection of characteristics. We do not have any established scheme of "[US State] women news anchors" for this to be a part of, but Kentucky news anchors don't have any special need for a standalone category that other states don't have -- and since television anchors frequently change employers over the course of their careers, building this out to its natural "every state gets one of these" conclusion would lead to extreme category bloat as individual anchors could have to be categorized for multiple states. So for all of those reasons, this isn't needed for just three people.
The Category:Journalists from Kentucky category isn't large enough to need diffusion at all — and while Category:American women television journalists is large enough that some diffusion might be useful, this won't make it any larger because the three people here are all already in that other one alongside this anyway, and an Category:American women television news anchors vs. Category:American women television reporters and correspondents split would be a more useful and important and defining distinction than a by-state scheme. Bearcat ( talk) 21:18, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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Category:Writers from the Spanish Empire

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 ( d ) 21:23, 12 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: This category is not defining for empires: See Category:Writers from the British Empire [1] Mason ( talk) 21:15, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Note: the members are now all categorised directly by a more specific nationality. – Fayenatic London 08:41, 5 November 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per precedent. Marcocapelle ( talk) 21:48, 7 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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Category:Male murder victims

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The arguments for keeping were quite weak - WP:CATGENDER is the clear policy-based argument here. For such a category to be viable, there would need to be a clearer connection between the gender and the crime. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 17:12, 22 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: WP:CATGENDER. I know there is Category:Female murder victims, but does this automatically make a male category necessary, and eligible? Parent Category:Incidents of violence against men states is for "incidents of gender-based violence against men or boys", and it is a fair to assume that most murders in this category are not gender-related. Deletion because there are a lot of options in Category:Murder victims under which articles are categorized by features that are actually defining, starting with nationality. Place Clichy ( talk) 20:44, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Comment. If not kept, the category should be upmerged to Category:Murder victims Mason ( talk) 21:44, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Respectfully, I don't think so. All articles should already be in more precise Murder victims categories, no need to flood the root with 1800+ articles. A PetScan query gives me 150 articles (out of 1,861) that are not there, but many of them are about murders rather than victims (some of them in both Category:Female murder victims and Category:Male murder victims such as Murder of the Krim siblings). I'm currently browsing the other articles to place them in appropriate geographical categories. Place Clichy ( talk) 01:51, 5 November 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete (don't merge) per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:32, 5 November 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Just because its not "targeted" and or "Gender related" doesnt mean it shouldnt exist. It would be quite sexist to have a category for Women, and not for men. MassiveMan ( talk) 15:14 11 November 2023 (MST)
    That's a complete departure from our guidelines, notably Categorization by defining characteristics and WP:CATGENDER: A gender-specific category could be implemented where gender has a specific relation to the topic. [...] Do not create separate categories for male and female occupants of the same position, such as "Male Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom" vs. "Female Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom".. Place Clichy ( talk) 16:16, 13 November 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep There are specific patterns of murders linked to the gender of the perpetrator and the victim. – LaundryPizza03 ( d ) 15:47, 13 November 2023 (UTC) reply
    @ LaundryPizza03: to clarify, do you mean that this category should be restricted to murders that were gender-motivated? Or where the murderer is of the opposite gender? Currently, a very large majority of the incidents behind this category are not motivated by gender at all (e.g. a politician assassinating another one to take power). In either case, a massive purge should follow. Place Clichy ( talk) 16:16, 13 November 2023 (UTC) reply
    Neither, it's that some types of motives are much more common for male than female victims. – LaundryPizza03 ( d ) 16:18, 13 November 2023 (UTC) reply
    Which motives would justify inclusion in the category then, according to you? Or is motive irrelevant, as long as the victim is male? Place Clichy ( talk) 17:02, 14 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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Category:Bleichröder family

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 ( d ) 21:11, 12 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: small cat with 2 family members (a father son pair) no interlanguage links Mason ( talk) 20:30, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete for now, without objection to recreate the category if more family members will have their own article. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:34, 5 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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Category:Prussian people by period

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 22#Category:Prussian people by period

Category:Prussian people by occupation

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 ( d ) 21:12, 12 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: rename per actual content, and in order to clarify that this is not about people from Prussia proper, the easternmost province of the kingdom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:21, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Prussia only became a kingdom in 1701. The state didn't change much besides the name. Marcelus ( talk) 20:14, 5 November 2023 (UTC) reply
  • It certainly did. It used to be a Polish fief and it became a major power in the Holy Roman Empire. Marcocapelle ( talk) 22:11, 5 November 2023 (UTC) reply
    It wasn't a Polish fief since 1657 Marcelus ( talk) 15:14, 7 November 2023 (UTC) reply
    • It did not become a major power in the Holy Roman Empire until 1701. Until this year "Prussian people" were people from Prussia proper. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:14, 7 November 2023 (UTC) reply
      Not true. Brandenburg wasn't part of the Kingdom of Prussia until 1806, when the Empire is abolished. I really encourage you to check sources. Marcelus ( talk) 22:59, 7 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Support, because then there's less ambiguity about what the category is about. Cukrakalnis ( talk) 10:00, 7 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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Category:Liang dynasty Taoists

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 ( d ) 21:16, 12 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: 1 person in category Mason ( talk) 15:52, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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Category:Polish-Americans in fiction

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 17:14, 22 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: delete, not a defining characteristic of any of the three articles. Just the fact that a main character's name is Kowalski is not a guarantee that it is about Polish diaspora. Marcocapelle ( talk) 14:10, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Delete as possible WP:OR. – LaundryPizza03 ( d ) 21:16, 12 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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Destroyed religious buildings

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 19:53, 27 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge for now, currently 1-3 articles in each of these categories, no objection to recreation of any of these categories when they can be better populated. Marcocapelle ( talk) 12:00, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Support per nom Mason ( talk) 20:31, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Correct, but I don't think an article about a Hindu temple properly belongs in a category like that. Marcocapelle ( talk) 12:50, 5 November 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. These categories seem to mostly have been attack categories from the start. I had myself added some categories for historical context, but it seems that the creator couldn't care less. Place Clichy ( talk) 14:40, 13 November 2023 (UTC) reply
    Why not merge? Because they're attack categories? Qwerfjkl talk 17:16, 22 November 2023 (UTC) reply
    Pinging @ Place Clichy. (Please ping on reply.) Qwerfjkl talk 17:17, 22 November 2023 (UTC) reply
    @ Qwerfjkl: you are correct, I meant to merge to the parent, as nominated. It is the link to the named rulers that is challengeable. Place Clichy ( talk) 17:17, 25 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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Category:Assyrian emigrants to Sweden

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The only remaining entry, Fares Fares, is also in the target. (non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 ( d ) 14:52, 13 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: We do not categorise emigrants by ethnicity, but only by the (former) nationality. The target category applies in all 3 cases. – Fayenatic London 08:32, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Merge per nom. The target may be renamed, that is being discussed elsewhere. Marcocapele ( talk) 11:05, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply
    Support per nom Mason ( talk) 20:31, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Merge. All 3 articles are already in the target BTW. However, I don't see reliable sources that would really support ethnic or religion categories per WP:BLPCAT, especially on Imad Chhadeh and Denho Acar. Place Clichy ( talk) 20:54, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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Category:Temples dedicated to Jagannath

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Jagannath temples. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 03:32, 12 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: In line with other Hindu deity articles e.g. Category:Vishnu temples Redtigerxyz Talk 07:00, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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Category:Rao family

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 03:32, 12 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: smallcat: one person in family. The interlanguage link also has only one page in it Mason ( talk) 01:25, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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Category:Dersffy family

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 03:31, 12 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: smallcat: one person in family without any interlanguage links Mason ( talk) 01:24, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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Category:Jin Yong characters' family trees

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge to Category:Jin Yong characters and Category:Fictional family trees. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 03:32, 12 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: dual merge because is smallcat with only one child category category Mason ( talk) 01:22, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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Category:Images of Sly and the Family Stone

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge to Category:Sly and the Family Stone and Category:Images of musical groups. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 03:31, 12 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: dual merge: one image in category. Mason ( talk) 01:20, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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Category:Lorántffy family

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 03:29, 12 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: smallcat: one person in family without any interlanguage links Mason ( talk) 01:19, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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Category:Roller coasters manufactured by Herschend Family Entertainment

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Herschend Family Entertainment. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 03:29, 12 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: upmerge 1 page in small cat Mason ( talk) 01:18, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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Category:Parkhurst family

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure)LaundryPizza03 ( d ) 21:06, 12 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: smallcat: one person in family without any interlanguage links Mason ( talk) 01:16, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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Category:Expatriates from Spanish Cuba

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Cuban expatriates. (non-admin closure) House Blaster talk 03:28, 12 November 2023 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: overlapping with Cuban expatriates, where regime isn't defining. Mason ( talk) 00:14, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Merge, the only article is about an embassador long after the Spanish had left Cuba. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:29, 4 November 2023 (UTC) reply

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