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Category:ART Giants Düsseldorf players
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Nominator's rationale: Delete per
WP:SMALLCAT. I tried to expand the category, but I only found two members. The team itself does not currently have an article, and it plays in a second-tier league, so many of its players are not sufficiently notable for an article on Wikipedia.
Pichpich (
talk) 18:19, 19 March 2023 (UTC)reply
keep - has potential, German wiki has 15 entries.
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Category:Targets of Gamergate
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Nominator's rationale: Non-defining category. We should not categorize people based on being subjected to violence and harassment by internet randos.
Zaathras (
talk) 16:21, 19 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete Not a defining characteristic. –
Muboshgu (
talk) 16:23, 19 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Comparing victims of the Holocaust to those who were harassed by random trolls on the internet is quite beyond the pale. Not even apples and oranges, this is apples and rubber tyres. Also, note to the eventual closing admin, CJ-Moki is the category creator.
Zaathras (
talk) 16:45, 19 March 2023 (UTC)reply
We should not categorize people based on being subjected to violence and harassment by internet randosI think we already do that.CJ-Moki (
talk) 16:48, 19 March 2023 (UTC)reply
If you can't discern the difference between a generalized topic and an ephemeral online mob that came and went, then, that's on you.
Zaathras (
talk) 17:10, 19 March 2023 (UTC)reply
WP:BLP imposes a higher standard for currently living people.
Lizthegrey (
talk) 19:36, 19 March 2023 (UTC)reply
WP:SMALLCAT is also relevant, since there are/were only a handful of truly notable Gamergate targets. —
Sangdeboeuf (
talk) 23:00, 23 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete as non-defining. I don't quite understand the appeal to
WP:AVOIDVICTIM here, as it doesn't appear to touch on categorization, but I do think that this category does not contain any individuals for whom it is defining. —
Red-tailed hawk(nest) 05:10, 20 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Either it isn't defining in which case, as you point out, there's already policy saying not to add the cat, or it is defining and they're not notable for other things, in which case AVOIDVICTIM applies. It's a two pronged argument you're right I should have spelled out better.
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Category:18th-century presidents of the United States
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Nominator's rationale: Consistency with the parent article, which has been moved to
Russian invasion of Ukraine (2022–present). While this is eligible under
WP:C2D, I anticipate this request may be controversial, so I am intentionally opening it as a discussion.
Elli (
talk |
contribs) 09:43, 7 March 2023 (UTC)reply
No objection to putting this on hold as the initial nominator here as well.
Elli (
talk |
contribs) 01:57, 20 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Qwerfjkltalk 12:04, 19 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Replace all instances of 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine and Russian invasion of Ukraine (2022–present) with Russian invasion of Ukraine, per
Talk:Russian invasion of Ukraine#Requested move 14 March 2023. The nominator also missed the following categories in their request:
Thanks for finding those; don't know how I missed them initially. I support your modified proposal here.
Elli (
talk |
contribs) 10:56, 27 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Also, the nomination has been completed with the 4 missing categories. –
LaundryPizza03 (
dc̄) 02:39, 23 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Rename all per RM and InfiniteNexus and LaundryPizza03. It may not be permanent, but it covers the current situation as the
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. (Struck my earlier !vote.) William Allen Simpson (
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Category:Climbing events
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No, mountaineering is a subcategory of climbing, so mountaineering is more specific than climbing. The root of the inheritance tree is the more general. William Allen Simpson (
talk) 09:53, 15 March 2023 (UTC)reply
@
Marcocapelle:Climbing is a broad activity from the world's tallest mountains (e.g. the
eight thousanders) to small
boulders. Climbing a boulder isn't "mountaineering", it is called "bouldering". But climbing is just one of the many specific things a mountaineer can do. Likewise,
Skiing is a broad activity. Skiing over a flat surface isn't "mountaineering", it is
cross-country skiing. But
alpine skiing is just one of the many specific things a mountaineer can do. William Allen Simpson (
talk) 09:57, 16 March 2023 (UTC)reply
@
William Allen Simpson: then it seems that Climbing should neither be a parent category nor a subcategory of Mountaineering and the article should be moved to both.
Marcocapelle (
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Qwerfjkltalk 11:42, 19 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Update — the sole article has been recategorized during discussion. (nomination modified) William Allen Simpson (
talk) 07:12, 22 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Comment Category has been emptied by nominator. LizRead!Talk! 01:13, 23 March 2023 (UTC)reply
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Category:Organizations based in Sakarya Province
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Category:Katuns
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Comment by creator - You should proceed with extreme caution - I just checked
here and realized that at least five existing articles can be included into this cat, and additional two are linked to other lang-wikies, which means could be eventually trans.ed or created in Eng. Thanks.--
౪ Santa ౪99° 08:16, 19 March 2023 (UTC)reply
The question, however, is "do these villages have something meaningful in common besides their shared name?" Even if we can show that these were all
Katuns in medieval times, does that have any lasting impact today that is precise and significant enough to build a category?
Pichpich (
talk) 19:02, 19 March 2023 (UTC)reply
These articles on villages are not the most fortunate choice for my argument because they could be few sentences long, but villages are all originating from historical katuns, no doubt about that, how is this described, if at all, within the articles that's the main question. We have even better candidates in quite a number of articles which could closer correspond to historicity, which should in reality be our defining characteristic, and these are articles on certain tribes from Montenegro, Old Herzegovina, Dalmatia, Herzegovina - these tribe-articles are all history articles on mostly Vlach katun-tribes. They would make real candidates; however, I had no time to go through and check how they describe this connection - I wouldn't be surprised if some could be immediately categorized as Category:Katuns based on prose and sources. If any one ever gets into this with more time and interest, we could be needing this category, if not right away then as soon as connection is established in prose.
౪ Santa ౪99° 03:30, 20 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete, not a defining characteristic of the villages mentioned on the dab page. We do not categorize based on name alone.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 09:01, 19 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete — no need to categorize proto-villages by type of social organization. An well annotates list is sufficient. William Allen Simpson (
talk) 02:43, 27 March 2023 (UTC)reply
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Category:Gaelic rulers
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For sure this is a redundant category layer. The exact fate of this category depends on the outcome of the other discussion. If
Category:Celtic rulers is deleted then this one here should go too. If
Category:Celtic rulers is not deleted then this one here should be merged to
Category:Celtic rulers.
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Category:Briton rulers
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Nominator's rationale: All people in this category are identified as "kings", "queens", or "chieftains". Perhaps
Epaticcus should be excluded because he was a brother of a king, and perhaps a governor or deputy, but that's not a "ruler" or "monarch".
Nederlandse Leeuw (
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Category:Sogdian rulers
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Nominator's rationale: All people in the category are identified as "kings", "princes", "emirs" or "chiefs".
Nederlandse Leeuw (
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