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Category:Cybernetted society in fiction
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Nominator's rationale: The title of the category does not appear anywhere else. I think the idea of
smart cities can describe the subject fairly well.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 23:31, 20 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Weak delete, while reading the articles it looks like an OR type of characterization. Some articles are in the tree of
Category:Techno-thrillers, that looks better, but this is obviously not applicable to the many video games in this category.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 13:12, 22 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete, appears to be an invented concept. The genre being described here is cyberpunk and everything here fits fine into
Category:Cyberpunk and its subcategories (e.g.
Category:Cyberpunk media). At a glance, these pages seem to generally already belong to appropriate subcategories, so I don't think anything is lost by deleting.
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Cyclo-cross by year
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Nominator's rationale: merge per
WP:SMALLCAT (1 article each). Not enough content per year at this stage of the tree. –
Aidan721 (
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Merge per nom. I do not know enough about the topic to understand why article creation only really kicks off in the year 2006. If in a later stage more articles are being created for the years before 2006, then by all means re-create the categories.
Marcocapelle (
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Merge per nom. I have no objection to re-creation of categories if expansion requires.
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Women's road cycling by year
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Women's mountain biking by year
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Nominator's rationale: Not enough content on a yearly basis to warrant these trees. Merge up as indicated. –
Aidan721 (
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Merge per nom. The decade categories might be upmerged too.
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Lists of international footballers with 1 article
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Upmerge to parent cats. –
Aidan721 (
talk) 16:48, 20 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Comment To note, all but the Norway category were already involved in a CfD discussion in the section below (albeit a large nomination for renaming). Having multiple CfDs for the same categories is probably best avoided to prevent confusion.
S.A. Julio (
talk) 21:15, 20 April 2023 (UTC)reply
I could withraw these, so we could further discuss it. As most of them being more useful as unisex. But your renaming nomination below for these smallcats are similarly pointless.
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Nominator's rationale:WP:SMALLCAT, only 2 notable Australians meet this criteria.
Joseph2302 (
talk) 14:53, 20 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Question, shouldn't it also be merged to the other parent category?
Marcocapelle (
talk) 16:00, 20 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Both people are already in that parent. –
Aidan721 (
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I had checked they were in the other parent before nominating, but forgot to mention that in the nomination, apologies.
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Category:Bangladesh under-23 cricketers
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Nominator's rationale:Category:Bangladesh under-23 cricketers(
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talk |
history |
links |
watch |
logs) is
WP:NOTDEFINING, as Bangladesh under-23 have played 5 matches in their history according to
Bangladesh national under-23 cricket team (and 2 of them weren't ranked as proper matches anyway). Under-23s cricket teams are not a common feature of cricket (unlike e.g. men's football, where the Olympics has under-23s teams), and so this category is unnecessary. If this category is deleted, then its parent and grandparent categories will be empty, so can be deleted too.
Joseph2302 (
talk) 14:39, 20 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete Not enough official matches by the team (irregular). Only a few players represented, so not needed.
RoboCric Let's chat 07:25, 26 April 2023 (UTC)reply
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Women's track cycling by year
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Track cycling by year
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Nominator's rationale:WP:SMALLCAT. Not enough content per year to warrant these categories. Manually handle Track cycling at the YYYY Summer Olympics since they are already parented by Cycling at the YYYY Summer Olympics. –
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Category:British people by ethnicity and occupation
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Nominator's rationale:WP:OCEGRS: triple intersection of occupation and nationality and descent is not defining.
Note: Unlike Canada, Nigeria, et alia, there's no effort to merge any of these into parents. Their parents are convoluted and overlapping categories. Obviously Latin America is by country, so it would be a manual merge. But others are further divided by regions and minority ethnicities. There are rarely consistent merge targets.
Support, trivial intersection between occupation and ancestors' nationality (or continent).
Marcocapelle (
talk) 18:33, 20 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete all. The UK does not recognized minority political representation of any kind. British politicians are not defined by their ancestry.
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Category:Nigerian people by occupation and ethnic or national origin
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Category:American college rifle templates
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People of Mongol descent
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Nominator's rationale:WP:COPSEP guideline. The content of these categories is about ethnic groups, not individual people.
Place Clichy (
talk) 11:53, 20 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Support per nom.
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Category:German female erotic dancers
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The result of the discussion was:No Consensus to merge/delete. - jc37 02:34, 19 May 2023 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: The members of this category may have given performances that might today be called "erotic" but that is not a defining characteristic of any of them. I propose moving them up a level to
Category:German female dancers to better encompass the range of what they did.
Northernhenge (
talk) 10:59, 20 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Comment Could someone please improve the main article
Erotic dance first, before we start categorising people of this occupation by nationality to gender? And then having to judge whether they were properly categorised? It would help a lot with determining what makes it "defining" to do this for a living, and what the difference is between, say, an "erotic dancer" and a "stripper", and whether they are all "sex workers" or just some of them. The main article has ZERO references and just 1 book as a source. We can't make things up as we go along, we need to base our information and categories on something.
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Years of the 16th century in Austria
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Nominator's rationale: merge/delete, the tree consists only of 1 or 2-article categories.
Marcocapelle (
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Delete/Merge for Now With no objection to recreating if any ever grow to 5+ articles. -
RevelationDirect (
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Most enthusiastically support all Hurrah. About time.
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The result of the discussion was:RESTORE STATUS QUO ANTE These and several other categories were moved out of process and must be reverted to their original location before any discussion can proceed.
Timrollpickering (
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Nominator's rationale: Moved without discussion. In the case of fictional characters, this is incorrect.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 03:04, 20 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Indeed, this may be incorrect for non-humanoid entries (if present), but we do prefer "women" to "female" all through our categories. So why not recategorize the non-humanoid entries?
Materialscientist (
talk) 03:20, 20 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Having a female appearance or female-appearing attributes, does not make a character a human woman. And there is no purpose served to duplicate all of the categories to include ones for characters that we presume are human. Or in other words, this would be a lot of
WP:OR. - jc37 04:42, 20 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Exactly - even in the "Female assassins" category, there is
Cameron (Terminator), a female android, and
Gamora (Marvel Cinematic Universe), a female alien. They aren't humans and it would be misleading to categorize everyone under human terms.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 05:11, 20 April 2023 (UTC)reply
I do not quite see the problem. With humanoid fictional characters we can only assess if they look and sound similarly to earthly women. So either women is good enough, or we should entirely stop categorizing non-humanoids by gender.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 06:14, 20 April 2023 (UTC)reply
And in many, if not most, cases, that would be
WP:OR
That said, I fully support not categorising fictional characters by gender. It's just not a determination that we should be making, and definitely not through the category system. Merge them all to non-gendered categories. - jc37 06:48, 20 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Let's put this another way. If we are basing this upon "appearing to be female" then what about transgender characters? A particular character may appear to be male, or may appear to be female. How should they be categorised? And further, how do we know concerning a character in a text-only medium, like a book? Based upon a textual description? Based upon pronouns? Again, we're back to
WP:OR. - jc37 06:54, 20 April 2023 (UTC)reply
I actually oppose categorizing by gender for precisely this reason and others, at least for fictional characters but consensus was to retain the gender-based split. If you think it should be merged into a single, genderless category, I will gladly !vote on whatever CfD you do.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 06:49, 20 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Being an avid recent changes patroller, I often observe
WP:OR or edit warring on identifying gender of fictional or animated characters. Oftentimes, I feel that the creators did not actually want to define any gender. Hence I would only support genderless categorization in this case.
Materialscientist (
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19th-century fires in Europe / in the UK
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Nominator's rationale: merge per
WP:SMALLCAT, all above categories have up to 4 articles, many only 1.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 02:47, 20 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Merge for Now with no objection to recreation if these ever exceed expectations and grow to 5+ articles. -
RevelationDirect (
talk) 03:41, 20 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Merge all as per nom. Looks like this will be the last of the many upmerges for some of these articles.
Joseph2302 (
talk) 15:06, 20 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Not the last yet, I am afraid, but we are getting somewhere.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 06:15, 21 April 2023 (UTC)reply
Comment What? No suggestions for European fires? Are fires in Jersey British fires?
Laurel Lodged (
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