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Category:Organizations listed as a U. S. foreign agent

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Organizations listed by the United States as foreign agents. bibliomaniac 1 5 03:33, 22 March 2022 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The wording "U.S. foreign agent" is misleading, especially that the "foreign agent" label is also applied to entities operating in Russia. Additionally, the U. S. spelling violates MOS. I'm proposing a rename to a less ambiguous name. — kashmīrī  TALK 21:05, 23 February 2022 (UTC) reply
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Category:Place templates

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 March 3#Category:Place templates

All subcategories in Category:Law by country

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The result of the discussion was: rename all. bibliomaniac 1 5 03:37, 22 March 2022 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: After Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 February 15#Category:Law of the United Kingdom I realize that the use of demonyms in categories is a bad idea. Thus I propose to rename all subcategories in Category:Law by country. @ James500, Laurel Lodged, and Peterkingiron: pinging editors from the old discussion. Thesmp ( talk) 16:17, 23 February 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Support the rename of the subcategories for countries that are presently sovereign states (therefore not including provinces, dependencies or former countries), such as Category:French law, to Category:Law of France etc (using the English short name of those countries). These categories are supposed to be categories for the law of particular countries. Some of them, however, have names that seem to refer to the law of places (such as former colonies) that do not seem to be part of those countries. For example, a number of sources say that there is "French law" in Louisiana [1] [2] and Quebec [3] [4]. The existing Category:French law should be renamed to Category:Law of France. Then any articles that we have about "French law" in Louisiana or Quebec or (presumably) former colonies of France etc should be placed in the new Category:French law. If no such articles yet exist, then Category:French law should be redirected to Category:Law of France until such articles are created. Similarly, other sources say that there is "Spanish law" in Texas, and, accordingly, we should deal with Category:Spanish law in the same way. Someone would need to actually carry out any reorganization that would be rendered necessary by the renames. I suspect that this would require a large amount of careful examination of sources to determine exactly what should be included in what category. I oppose Peterkingiron's proposal for similar reasons to those that I gave at the previous CfD that began on 15 February. James500 ( talk) 06:39, 3 March 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Support per Marcocapelle and James500. Also @ Thesmp, James500, Laurel Lodged, Peterkingiron, Fayenatic london, and Thryduulf: because I listed all target names. If you agree in principle, but do not agree on any country, then cross it out, then we can discuss those separately. -- Heanor ( talk) 16:38, 6 March 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Support, specifically because the articles are at Law of the United States and Law of France which is a clear C2D. Support moving all to the same title and not picking and choosing which go where. Also, note that both France and the UK ( Law of the United Kingdom) have their articles as "Law of...". -- Gonnym ( talk) 08:27, 7 March 2022 (UTC) reply
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Category:Australian politicians of Sri Lankan descent

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:48, 3 March 2022 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Trivial intersection Ivar the Boneful ( talk) 12:46, 23 February 2022 (UTC) reply
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Category:Australian politicians of Korean descent

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:56, 3 March 2022 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Trivial intersection Ivar the Boneful ( talk) 12:46, 23 February 2022 (UTC) reply
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Category:Australian politicians of Iranian descent

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The result of the discussion was: merge ( non-admin closure) Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:03, 3 March 2022 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Trivial intersection Ivar the Boneful ( talk) 12:46, 23 February 2022 (UTC) reply
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Category:People from Perryville, Maryland

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The result of the discussion was: soft merge ( non-admin closure) Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:08, 3 March 2022 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Small one-county community with just two entries. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 12:07, 23 February 2022 (UTC) reply
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Category:Naturalised tennis players of Italy

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The result of the discussion was: merge all. bibliomaniac 1 5 03:42, 22 March 2022 (UTC) reply

Nominator's rationale: No need for such a specific category. Same applies for the other subcategories of Category:Naturalised tennis players by nationality. Nehme 1499 19:25, 8 January 2022 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Adding siblings.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Fayenatic London 10:29, 23 February 2022 (UTC) reply

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Category:States with limited recognition

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The result of the discussion was: keep ( non-admin closure) Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:14, 3 March 2022 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: I propose to rename not only this categories, but all subcategories. Now this categories also includes UN member states not recognised by at least one UN member state, i. e. Israel, China, Armenia, Cyprus, South and North Koreas. But subcategories are mostly only for de facto states, this branch are parallel to Category:Categories by country for UN member states. Thesmp ( talk) 08:56, 23 February 2022 (UTC) reply
Strongly Oppose It directly states at the top of the category that: "The main article for this category is List of states with limited recognition." Renaming it to Category:De facto states would not make any sense, as the only entries within the category are "states with limited recognition", as the article defines them. Israel, China, Armenia, Cyprus, South Korea, and North Korea are all within the present category anyway. De facto states, as an article, does not even exist, and the De facto state page is just a redirect to the aforementioned list article. Propose renaming the article before proposing that the category gets renamed. - Wiz9999 ( talk) 10:22, 23 February 2022 (UTC) reply
Wiz9999, I didn't get my point, I'm perfectly OK with the title List of states with limited recognition. Israel, China, Armenia, Cyprus, South Korea, and North Korea shoule be in this list because they enjoy only limited recognition. I'm talking about subcategories of Category:States with limited recognition, i. e. Category:Coats of arms of unrecognized or largely unrecognized states, Category:Constitutions of unrecognized or largely unrecognized states, Category:Geography by states with limited recognition‎ etc. Should they contain all states with limited recognition, including Israel, China, Armenia, Cyprus, South and North Koreas? -- Thesmp ( talk) 10:33, 23 February 2022 (UTC) reply
I don't see why not. Israel, China, Armenia, Cyprus, South Korea, and North Korea are all states with limited recognition. This wording: "of unrecognized or largely unrecognized states" is from an old category ( Category:Unrecognized or largely unrecognized states) that was recently put up for deletion, as all its entries were migrated into the more appropriately worded Category:States with limited recognition. If anything, it's all those subcategories that need renaming now, to "of states with limited recognition". - Wiz9999 ( talk) 10:45, 23 February 2022 (UTC) reply
Oppose Agree with Wiz9999, apart from points made by him, it is clear that Israel and China, for example, are de jure states and not merely de facto. It is better to follow the main article divisions for these things without further subdivision. Selfstudier ( talk) 11:15, 23 February 2022 (UTC) reply
Wiz9999, Selfstudier I do not insist, that it is why I opened this discussion. Just to clarify what I proposed: rename category and remove Israel, China, Armenia, Cyprus, South and North Koreas from it and all subcategories. -- Thesmp ( talk) 12:52, 23 February 2022 (UTC) reply
I understood, not needed though. Selfstudier ( talk) 13:03, 23 February 2022 (UTC) reply
Oppose. The current category name captures the intended meaning very well. "De facto", on the other hand, would be fairly confusing. — kashmīrī  TALK 21:07, 23 February 2022 (UTC) reply
Oppose - the current title is fine, per WP:BROKE. As mentioned above "de facto" could be confusing in some situations. Inter&anthro ( talk) 03:38, 24 February 2022 (UTC) reply
Oppose, outside maybe the occasional edge case, most states are de facto states, so this isn't the best name for the category. CMD ( talk) 08:16, 24 February 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep but remove Armenia, China (which links to PRC), both Koreas, Israel and Cyprus, all of which are widely (though perhaps not universally) recognised. This will leave breakaway states such as Northern Cyprus, Taiwan, and Transnistria which exist in a sort of diplomatic limbo. Peterkingiron ( talk) 17:11, 26 February 2022 (UTC) reply
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