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Nominator's rationale: per
WP:SMALLCAT: only one article, and I don't think we have any other articles to populate it. If we do sub-categorise
Category:Natural gas fields in the United Kingdom, the bet place to start would be to split by the UK's constituent countries, i.e England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. "West of Shetland" is both a narrow and ill-defined scope.
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
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Support per nom, small cat and no good reason to separate Shetland fields from other UK fields and islands.--
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Nominator's rationale: delete, very subjective, being a psychopath is suspected from a character's behaviour but hardly ever formally established. These films are serial killer films, psychological thrillers, horror movies etc and already categorized as such.
Marcocapelle (
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Category:Wikipedians in Suzhou High School
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Nominator's rationale: Another overlooked high school alma mater category, this time discovered by accident while looking for small location categories.
* Pppery *it has begun... 15:25, 30 April 2022 (UTC)reply
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Category:American Roman Catholic bishops in South America
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Nominator's rationale: These are U.S. nationals who serve their episcopacy outside the U.S.A. so they are expatriate bishops. A rather long target but more accurate.
Laurel Lodged (
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Question, is it really necessary to add "expatriate" in the category name? Or does it speak for itself that they are expatriates?
Marcocapelle (
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Ok that is clear. Then support for consistency.
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Category:Wikipedians in the Outermost Regions of the European Union
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Category:Constructed languages with a Wikipedia
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If you are going to get rid of it, I would just like to list the articles here: Esperanto, Ido, Interlingua, Lojban, Novial, Interlingue, Volapuk. And I have to say that I find this a very useful category for determining Conlangs that have achieved some sort of threshold of enough to warrant writing articles in them. I do not have any rationale at the moment regarding DEFINING.
UserTwoSix (
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Delete as Non-defining. And I think a list should not be in article space, as it would be little more than navel-gazing or to satisfy a niche interest, although it might have some value in Wikipedia space (e.g.
Wikipedia:Constructed languages with their own Wikipedias) for internal maintenance/reference purposes.
--Animalparty! (
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Delete this is way to much navel gazing anywhere in main space.
John Pack Lambert (
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Keep I'm going to oppose this. I think it is a useful category.
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Category:Wikipedians from the former Soviet Union
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Delete, the purpose of user categories by location is that people may well have local knowledge about the place where they live. That is not the case here. Even more so because being born does not imply that people have consciously lived under the Soviet regime. Editors may add themselves to
Category:Wikipedians interested in the Soviet Union instead, if applicable, but this is not meant as a rename proposal.
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Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: St Paul's Co-educational College, Hong Kong
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Nominator's rationale: Overlooked high school alma mater category.
* Pppery *it has begun... 13:59, 30 April 2022 (UTC)reply
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Category:Defunct tennis tournaments in Czech Republic
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Oppose putting the article "the" before Czech Republic would results in misplacing it on the automated list when editors will use HotCat for adding categories to the articles. Also, this type of naming should be used for United States and United Kingdom only, i.e. nations with multiple entities inside them, which is not the Czech Republic case, and it is wrong as well for Dominican Republic, under C2B ( almost the totality of nations are enlisted without the preceeding article). I'll propose to rename them instead.
Opencross (
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CommentOpencross, "the" in English names isn't as rare (or simple) as you suggest, for example there are 24 country subcategories of
Category:Education by country which include "the".
TSventon (
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I'm sorry if i was misleading you into thinking i was generically speaking about the grammar in use in the general case. I was more concentrated upon the usage in the wikipedia pages, and specifically within the tennis project.
There are 52 subcategories of "Cat: tennis tournament in.." with just 4 having "the" preceeding the name of the country. People for sure won't look at the bottom of the scrolling list of HotCat to find "... in the Czech Republic" nor for the Dominican case. I am posing this question on a practical basis, because in my view, it's better to rectify a longstanding problem than to extend it further.
Anyhow, i am ok with whatever it would be decided, just because i needed to use that category and i actively looked for it. I don't know if other users would do the same, going a step further than the intuitive approach. Cheers
Opencross (
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Category:Defunct tennis tournaments in Czech Republic could be kept as a
Template:Category redirect to help editors find the existing category.
TSventon (
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@
TSventon: The redirect link sounds good to me. In order to facilitate users' experience and practice then blank all the categories i created on Czech Republic named here, and reformulate them as redirect thus they will be easier to find on HotCat scroll list. — Preceding
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Rename - the oppose (by the creator) was gratuitous and should have been ignored.
Oculi (
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@
Marcocapelle:This edit didn't notify me (I don't know why not), so I doubt that it will have notified the others (
TSventon,
Opencross,
Oculi) either. This edit will definitely not have notified TSventon (it wasn't signed), so my post now is by way of a courtesy notification. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
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Rename per nominator for consistency with other Czech categories. The category order issue can be resolved simply by using a sort key. --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
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Rename per nominator (and BHG) for consistency with other Czech categories.
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Category:19th century people in Geneva
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The result of the discussion was:merge/rename as amended. It seems to me that these people also belong in
Category:19th-century Swiss people, so i will make sure they are all in that C19 hierarchy too. –
FayenaticLondon 11:34, 3 June 2022 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:merge/rename, anachronistic categories in the tree of Republic of Geneva. The 16th to 18th century siblings have just been speedily renamed to a "Republic" format but that would not apply here. The Republic ceased to exist in 1798 (with a very short reestablishment in 1813-1815). The fact that people in these categories were born while the Republic was still there is not defining.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 12:13, 30 April 2022 (UTC)reply
Support 16th, 17th and 18th century, oppose 19th since the Republic ceased to exist in 1798 (it was only briefly restored from 1813 to 1815).
Marcocapelle (
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These (19th century) appear to be people who grew up in the Republic of Geneva in the late 1700s but were professionally active in the 1800s. Seems defensible, apart from the name.
Oculi (
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I will process the 16th, 17th, and 18th centuries as unopposed. I recommend that the 19th century is taken to a full discussion.
Ymblanter (
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The three botanists in the category are clearly from the city of Geneva though.
Marcocapelle (
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OK - I hadn't looked.
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Category:Ukrainian genocide
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Delete per the reasons given above, even more so now that the AfD has closed as delete. --
QueenofBithynia (
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Keep There is a lot of news and academic publication on this subject in recent weeks.
[1] The article
Ukraine genocide was deleted because its text combined two subjects (Holodomor and 2022 Russian action). The category “Ukrainian genocide” does not. —MichaelZ. 16:17, 28 April 2022 (UTC)reply
There are currently several articles which deal with the subject or question of Ukrainian genocide in 2022:
International Criminal Court investigation in Ukraine: quotation: “ICC Prosecutor Karim Ahmad Khan stated that the ICC could "exercise its jurisdiction and investigate any act of genocide, crime against humanity or war crime committed within Ukraine."”
Ukraine v. Russian Federation (2022): full title “Allegations of Genocide under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (Ukraine v. Russian Federation)”
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@
Pppery: it might work, but it would be a narrower and rather different category, because a "Category:Claims of genocide" would be about the claims rather than the events.
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Category:Polish Army traditions
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Category:Snake Island (Black Sea)
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Rename - As the nominator said, it's consistent. Also, it seems to me that the suggested name would be more helpful during a search.
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Category:Wikipedians who contribute to Homestar Runner Wiki
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Nominator's rationale: "Wikipedians by website" categories have dubious collaborative value at best. They're definitely useless when there isn't even an article on the website.
* Pppery *it has begun... 04:11, 30 April 2022 (UTC)reply
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Category:Wikipedians in Mexico and Central America
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@
Pppery and
Piotrus: I have taken the liberty to add the parent category to the nomination.
Marcocapelle (
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No objection. I was looking at just "Wikipedians in" categories so didn't notice that the parent was similarly empty.
* Pppery *it has begun... 16:40, 30 April 2022 (UTC)reply
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