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The result of the discussion was:delete.
MER-C 19:37, 19 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete, while 5G is being introduced these categories are outdated. By the way, I can't see a purpose for this type of categories anyway.
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Category:Legislative sessions
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Nominator's rationale:Merge and redirect to parent, as the nominated category currently only contains one sub-cat (for the United States). –
FayenaticLondon 21:52, 9 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Merge, a redundant category layer.
Marcocapelle (
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Nominator's rationale: Re-creation of a category that has been deleted at least twice before, albeit with slightly different names (
one,
two). LugnutsFire Walk with Me 16:12, 9 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete yet again. Still not a defining characteristic of the films. My library has over 600 of their titles now so I understand the desire to acknowledge their product but we have the
List of Criterion Collection releases to benefit our readers.
MarnetteD|
Talk 16:47, 9 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete. Better as a list.
DonIago (
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Delete: Now that I think about it, yeah this is probably better as a list.
Prokrabsgod2 (
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Delete Most articles on the films do not mention these releases. I fail to see their importance.
Dimadick (
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Category:Female candidates for President of the United States
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Keep - gender equality has not been achieved in this sphere of life.
Oculi (
talk) 16:30, 9 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete – You are correct, Oculi, gender equality has not been achieved, and it should be self-evident that keeping this category exacerbates the problem of gender inequality – which Wikipedia defines as "the social process by which men and women are not treated as equals."
There are two ways to ensure that men and women are treated as equals:
(1) Have both a "Female candidates for President of the United States" category and a "Male candidates for President of the United States" category. Or,
(2) have neither.
What you are proposing – keeping the female category, without creating a male category – clearly contributes to greater gender inequality.
I prefer solution (2), "have neither," because segregating candidates by gender moves us further away from a world where voters don't give a second thought to a candidate's gender.
MLK dreamed of a world where "people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." That is such a noble principle, he was honored with a national holiday! Surely he also did not want anyone to be judged by whether they are female or male. Segregating political candidates along those lines therefore detracts from the realization of MLK's vision.
2601:281:CC80:5AE0:B5D1:145:6AFD:6E71 (
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Comment this makes no distinction about how far along in the process anyone can get. Anyone native-born US citizen who is 35 years old or older can claim to be a candidate for president. Moreover, a politician need not be serious or part of party. What may be notable for some of these biographies is that they were politicians as senators, governors, or whatever, but when only a few months of their long lives were engaged in this pursuit (and ultimately, failed pursuit) is hard to be defining.
Carlossuarez46 (
talk) 22:39, 9 November 2020 (UTC)reply
You seem to be saying that it is too easy to become a candidate for president. I respect that you hold this opinion. However, that has no bearing on the fact that having a category for one gender, but not for the other gender, is, by definition, gender inequality.
2601:281:CC80:5AE0:B5D1:145:6AFD:6E71 (
talk) 06:21, 10 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose Not a valid reason for deletion.
Dimadick (
talk) 16:42, 10 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete You have asserted that it's not a valid reason for deletion, without offering any arguments in support of your assertion! The existence of the category clearly increases gender inequality. Why would you support that?
2601:281:CC80:5AE0:D045:8825:69D9:B507 (
talk) 14:40, 11 November 2020 (UTC)reply
It does not increase gender inequality, at most it makes gender inequality visible. I wonder though if this category shouldn't be merged to
Category:American women in politics per
WP:OCEGRS as a non-notable intersection with gender.
Marcocapelle (
talk) 05:23, 12 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete in favour of
List of female United States presidential and vice-presidential candidates. While we frequently have categories for female holders of a specific political office otherwise generally associated with men, being a candidate is no such office. I don't know what is the actual US practice, but where I live anybody can be considered a candidate from the time they find a media willing to report the fact that they wish to be one. An example of this confusion is
Elizabeth Warren, which I believe was candidate to the Democratic primary but not the presidential election itself. Having a list article is therefore
a lot more precise and useful than a category as it allows room for all these important nuances. The rationale that you cannot have a female category if you do not balance it with a male one is however erroneous, as explicitly mentioned in
WP:CATGENDER:
A
female heads of government category is valid as a topic of special encyclopedic interest, though it does not need to be balanced directly against a "Male heads of government" category, as historically the vast majority of political leaders have been male. [...] Do not create separate categories for male and female occupants of the same position, such as "Male Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom" vs. "Female Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom".
Oppose per Oculi and Dimadick.
SportingFlyerT·C 15:12, 17 November 2020 (UTC)reply
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Category:Second Ladies of the United States
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The result of the discussion was:close as premature. This is already being discussed at the location linked in the nominator's rationale.
(non-admin closure)Zeke, the Mad Horrorist(Speak quickly)(Follow my trail) 17:52, 29 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Associated discussion of the renaming of
Second Lady of the United States. Whatever consensus arose from that page will also apply here.
Close as premature. No point in discussing the same issue in different places.
Oculi (
talk) 16:02, 9 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Close As premature. Once the article is renamed, this can be a speedy request under
WP:C2D.
RevelationDirect (
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The result of the discussion was:delete.
MER-C 19:38, 19 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Renault Kadjar: This SUV is officially named by combining two French words but there has been a lot of online discussion of the similarity to the pronounciation of
Qajar dynasty.
English Wikipedia could definitely use more articles about the influence of Persian culture but I don't see a category with two automobile articles that are arguably Persian aiding navigation. -
RevelationDirect (
talk) 00:19, 9 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete - if there are no expectations of getting some more and better articles fitting to the cat. --
Just N. (
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Category:Things named after animals
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Delete per
WP:SHAREDNAME. Absurdly broad, equally might as well start having categories for "things with names that start with the letter A"
BlackholeWA (
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Delete per nom and SHAREDNAME. --
Just N. (
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