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The result of the discussion was:delete.
MER-C 10:47, 19 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep The category should be more specific. It should not be deleted, for it contains single article. The article under this category,
Marchuwa (currency), which is used by the
Kingdom of Damot as well as
Kingdom of Wolayita (that's why it is under the category
Category:Currencies of the Kingdom of Wolaita, though the discussion is archived). Yes, its parent category is
Category:Currencies of Africa, for
Wolayita and other Kingdoms that used
Marchuwa as a currency were
African. But we should not forget the subcategory more specifies the article. There were plenty number of Empires and Kingdoms under the Africa continent, even in Ethiopia, but there are very little pages in the Wikipedia. It needs more attention. Keep, keep and keep.
YitbeA-21 09:30, 11 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete The currency in question is categorized enough as a medieval currency. We have little on Damot, but the way to solve this problem is not to create categories that group nothing, but to do more research to find more information. There is no justification for having a category of 1 item, it groups nothing.
John Pack Lambert (
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Delete per nom. --
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Category:Panamanian medical doctors
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Nominator's rationale: To match all the other American categories. "medical doctors" is used for British and related categories, of which Panama is not one.
Rathfelder (
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Oppose As I have said consistently, in American English usage this is the proper common name, well unless you want us to go to making this
Category:Panamanian doctors (medical), which might be a bit closer to the common usage, where they are normally just called doctors but we need some disambiguation, but I think most people would agree that that is just an ugly looking and needlessly long way to do it. Either way that is the common name that we should use.
John Pack Lambert (
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Support — JPL has been consistently wrong. For goodness sake, the parent is
Category:Physicians by nationality. Yes, lazy Americans often call anybody in the medical field "doctors". Or anybody with a PhD "doctor". But nobody calls them "medical doctor". William Allen Simpson (
talk) 22:23, 11 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Your statement here is needless rude, provocative, and just plain wrong. It is not a sign of "laziness" to call people doctors, that is the common usage in the United States. People do say medical docotr. My search for the term, in quotes on google with in America added on without quotes produced over 5 million results. Here is one of the early ones
[1]. How this compares with the level of the use of the term physician is harder to analize, but your claim that no one says medical doctor is just plain false.
John Pack Lambert (
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The wording "call" and "calls" refer to using the term in everyday spoken conversation. JPL points to an online salary discussion, where MD may well be used to distinguish from DO, JD, LLD, PhD, etc. Wikipedia's policy is
WP:COMMONNAME. Presumably, we are not explicitly excluding DO. Moreover, we are not specifically including psychiatrists, who are also MD. William Allen Simpson (
talk) 12:06, 20 December 2020 (UTC)reply
I am a bit lost in the abbreviations. What is DO, JD and LLD?
Marcocapelle (
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Support as present title is British usage so not appropriate here (and Canada generally does seem to follow American usage; cf "transportation" not "transport")
Hugo999 (
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Support per nom. --
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Category:Deadpool films
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Merge per nom, but why not upmerge to this one? There is no
Deadpool (film series) article, only a redirect, so without being restricted to matching the main page, the
WP:NATURALDIS without the parenthetical seems more appropriate. And if said article is ever created, this cat can be speedy renamed at that point. —
2pou (
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Merge as nom. While there is not yet a
Deadpool (film series) article, it is tagged as a redirect with possibilities. And I'm surprised, as the Film section is bigger than the main article. It should have been split long ago. William Allen Simpson (
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Merge per nom. --
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Category:Nation of Language EPs
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge or delete altogether. Beyond just being listed in a discography section, there is no information on any of these EPs in the target article. The redirects might be useful but the category is not. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 19:41, 10 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom. --
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Nominator's rationale in this case we are categorizing people by the government they served, that is the Russian Empire, we are not categorizing them by ethnicity. The new name makes this clearer.
John Pack Lambert (
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Rename to the simpler
Category:Officials in Congress Poland. A glance at the names suggests that many were ethnic Poles. Congress Poland was part of the Russian Empire, so that the addition of a nationality is redundant.
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Category:Iryna Bilyk
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Nominator's rationale: Fails
WP:OCEPON. Too little content for an eponymous category. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 18:26, 10 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom, a clear case of overcategorzation.
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Delete per nom. --
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Category:List of ethnic enclaves in the Philippine Cities
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Nominator's rationale: Obviously a misplaced draft article. If it is kept, it should be moved to Draft space. —
teb728tc 17:30, 10 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Convert to draft article per nom.
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Convert to draft article per nom. --
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Category:Category:Puerto-Rican television talk show hosts
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Category:Jammu
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Rename per nom. --
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Category:Degree Colleges in Kashmir
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Support per nom. --
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Category:Houses of scientists in Ukraine
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Nominator's rationale:upmerge per
WP:SMALLCAT, only one article and the parent category is also sparsely populated. The sibling category has been nominated as well, that
discussion is still open.
Marcocapelle (
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Support However
Category:Houses of Scientists only appears to have 3 articles, one on the concept itself (and is a category right now with 2 subcats). I am not sure this needs a distinct category period.
John Pack Lambert (
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Merge per nom. --
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Category:UD Granadilla Tenerife Sur players
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Note: This discussion has been included in
WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves.
GiantSnowman 21:28, 10 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Support per nom. --
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Category:Genocide deniers
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rename The current name is ambiguous enough that it might be thought to refer to the ethnicity of the person who denies the genocide. In this case it is a specific genocide that is being denied, the ethnicity/nationality of the people doing the denying is not relevant to the category.
John Pack Lambert (
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Comment I still think these are
OPINIONCATs and ought to be deleted. Among the issues presented is at what point deniers deny. Presumably, by pleading not guilty in various trials, all issues including whether the genocide took place, whether it was a genocide even if it did, etc., are all denied by the defendants and thus put in issue. Some people are, no doubt, notable for belonging to groups espousing denial of these events, and are better categorized there than here; and these need to be purged of people who are perpetrators (also better categorized elsewhere).
Carlossuarez46 (
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Rename - I created Category:Bosnian genocide deniers, and if I only knew better at the time, I would name it per nominators suggestion.--
౪ Santa ౪99° 23:21, 10 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Rename per nom, much better, less ambiguous. --
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Saint Mary's Redmen football
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Nominator's rationale: The football program at
Saint Mary's University of Minnesota was discontinued after the 1954 season when the school's sports teams were still known as the "Redmen".
Jweiss11 (
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Support per nomination.
Dmoore5556 (
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Support per nom. Yet another non-controversial move.-
UCO2009bluejay (
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Support per nom. --
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Category:Recipients of the Order of the Cloud and Banner
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Background In the past, we've deleted dozens of similar categories for high ranking visitors which are
listed right here. -
RevelationDirect (
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Delete a clear case of overcategorizing by award. The fact that we have been deleting such categories regularly for over 8 years and still have so many getting nominated is problematic.
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Category:Morgan Prize winners
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The
Morgan Prize is a US$1,200 prize for an undergraduate students doing research in mathematics and I'm sure the award is initially defining for those promising young students. But Wikipedia doesn't have articles on promising young students. By the time these people are notable, the award is no longer defining and only gets mentioned in passing in the education or honours section, for example with
Manjul Bhargava,
Ciprian Manolescu or any other article you want to click on. The current contents are already listified
here in the main article for any reader interested in the topic. -
RevelationDirect (
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Delete a clear case of overcategorization by award. Some days I wonder if we would not be better off just scrapping all awards categories.
John Pack Lambert (
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Delete per nominator's convincing facts. --
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Category:Albums recorded at Abbey Road Studios
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The result of the discussion was:delete.
MER-C 10:46, 19 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment I clicked on several of these and, in general, it's mentioned in the infobox and nowhere else. -
RevelationDirect (
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Delete I completely agree that where an album was recorded is a non-defining aspect of the album. I believe the creation of this category was how the scheme developed in the first place. Worth noting in the article when properly sourced, but not just because an album was recorded at such-and-such a location. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 00:58, 10 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment - normally in this circumstance I'd say listify. Certainly Wikipedia could do with one or the other, either list or category, and IMO a list is the more obvious thing to have. I think this nomination and the one at AFD are confounding each other.
Grutness...wha? 02:57, 10 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete - this is almost a textbook case of NOTDEFINING, in my view
Spiderone 19:33, 10 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose b/c the sound engineering personalities & machines and therefor the chosen studio is clearly defining for an album's quality! I'm a member of WikiProject Record Labels. --
Just N. (
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Delete in this Instance If there is a unique personality from this studio, it doesn't seem to be conveyed in the articles. I don't assume every recording studio is non-defining as some had distinct sounds or genres but this one seems like a general purpose rental. -
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