From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
< July 26 July 28 >

July 27

Category:Censored media

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Censored works. Based on the arguments, there is a pretty clear consensus to keep this category, as well as to rename it to avoid confusion. ℯ xplicit 05:47, 17 August 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Not a defining characteristic and never complete. GZWDer ( talk) 19:14, 27 July 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Weak support I'm open to hearing rationale to keep this category but Category:Censorship looks pretty well developed and organized and "media" itself is something of a vague term. Seraphim System ( talk) 20:17, 27 July 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete arguably, all media is censored somewhere by someone. Regardless, its censorship at somewhere at some time by someone is both transitory and not defining. Category:Media affected by the Great Firewall, anyone? Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 22:32, 27 July 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. This is not a defining point of commonality between The Satanic Verses (Islamic fatwa) and Mein Kampf (not censored, but just under a cultural taboo) and Fifty Shades of Grey (not censored, just boycotted by the self-appointed moral guardians) and Der Spiegel (one weekly issue of a magazine that's been around for over 70 years banned in one country) and things banned in China for political reasons. Bearcat ( talk) 02:27, 28 July 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. This can be a defining characteristic of some media, being censored is often mentioned in lead, for example consider Go Princess Go or Mo Li Hua, or Germany. A Winter's Tale (particularly GPG and GWT are interesting, because it was censorship that generated a lot of buzz about them, both in the 21st and in the 19th century). And being censored is about as important as being stated in year xx, closed, or many other things, perhaps more. Never complete is hardly a serious argument - there are many categories which are 'never complete', like, errr, all categories for creative works. Or astronomical bodies. Sigh. Perhaps some people misunderstood the purpose of this category - it's a parent category for censored media, i.e. books, songs, etc. Before this category existed, there was no way to find a list of media which have a commonality point of being censored, quite an important characteristic (through of course it varies from various media). PS. This category was created after a discussion involving several editors, and an RfC: Talk:Censorship/Archive_3#Censored_media_/_category_cleanup. Pinging editors involved in this discussion: @ Crtew, Rich Farmbrough, and Isthisuseful:. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:59, 30 July 2018 (UTC) reply
  • keep for the good reasons provided above. It now includes appropriate sub-categories. Hmains ( talk) 06:19, 1 August 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep, it does not make much sense to delete the category when its subcategories are kept. One other issue though, the current category name suggests that media as a whole are censored. A rename to Category:Censored content or something like that may be considered. Marcocapelle ( talk) 07:14, 1 August 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per everyone above and per the fact there's now subcats in said cat, No valid reason to delete keep – Davey2010 Talk 19:05, 1 August 2018 (UTC) reply
huh? delete or keep? Hmains ( talk) 03:02, 2 August 2018 (UTC) reply
@ Davey2010: I think we should ping Davey2010 for this :) -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:57, 3 August 2018 (UTC) reply
Haha deeeeerp!, My bad should've said "No valid reason to keep", Many thanks for the ping Piotrus :). – Davey2010 Talk 13:15, 3 August 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per everyone above me, I think I've got confused and gone with delete when infact I wanted it kept ? God only knows but keep per everyone above. – Davey2010 Talk 13:19, 3 August 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep, I just added a painting to the category and found no other category to place it in. I am a bit confused by 'media' in the title, but yes, there is a need for a central category for censored works besides 'Censorship in the arts' (so maybe rename to 'Censored works'). Randy Kryn ( talk) 11:15, 16 August 2018 (UTC) reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:People excluded from entering the United States

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering 19:45, 3 August 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Not a defining characteristic; compare Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2017_November_27#Category:People_banned_from_entering_China GZWDer ( talk) 18:59, 27 July 2018 (UTC) reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Wildlife of the Balkans

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering 19:44, 3 August 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Same topic. "Biota" is the term normally used for similar categories. DexDor (talk) 18:41, 27 July 2018 (UTC) reply
I've removed the redundant categorization so now it's Wildlife under Biota under Organisms.
I think all/most of the Category:Wildlife should go, but I'm doing it slowly (e.g. in case editors decide that the merge should be in the other direction). DexDor (talk) 21:50, 27 July 2018 (UTC) reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Train station moving walkways

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering 15:41, 3 August 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: The category is for stations, not walkways - existing title is unclear. (Not sure how useful a category it is, but that's another issue). Pam D 15:38, 27 July 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete as being non-defining. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 16:26, 27 July 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete -- unusual, but not all that uncommon. I am sure I found an example on London, at an underground station not in the category. Peterkingiron ( talk) 17:40, 27 July 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete not defining. Carlossuarez46 ( talk) 22:28, 27 July 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Train stations with elevators, car rentals, parking garages, etc are all normal amenities. RevelationDirect ( talk) 16:47, 29 July 2018 (UTC) reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Chronology in Switzerland / Helvetic Republic

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering 22:00, 5 August 2018 (UTC) reply

Nominator's rationale: Helvetic Republic is the name of the political regime of Switzerland between 1798 and 1803. Despite the fact that its borders were not exactly identitical to that of modern Switzerland, there is no basis for an entire separate chronology tree. Place Clichy ( talk) 12:06, 27 July 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Merge or reverse merge, certainly do not keep this duplication. Marcocapelle ( talk) 12:26, 27 July 2018 (UTC) reply
  • I agree with Marcocapelle. Boundaries have often moved, but it is essentially the same country. Its name as Helvetic Republic was of short duration. We might keep that name for year categories 1798-1803, but these should be parented to Switzerland ones covering longer periods. Peterkingiron ( talk) 17:52, 27 July 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Agreed. Sandstein 08:37, 28 July 2018 (UTC) reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Photographs by year

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Merge/delete. Timrollpickering 10:07, 3 August 2018 (UTC) reply
more nominated categories
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, we have too few photographs articles per year, leading to many 1- or 2-article categories. Categorization per decade helps better to find photographs from approximately the same period. Marcocapelle ( talk) 09:40, 27 July 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Support I agree with the nominator's rationale. Qono ( talk) 03:57, 30 July 2018 (UTC) reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Civics

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename Category:Civics to Category:Active citizenship, the second as nominated. ℯ xplicit 05:47, 17 August 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: merge/rename because these categories are not about civics as the study of citizenship but about citizenship itself. In addition I wonder if we shouldn't purge most subcats of the two nominated categories. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:28, 27 July 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Support Alternative That would work for me! Support that alternative with the rename for the Global civics category. RevelationDirect ( talk) 23:43, 2 August 2018 (UTC) reply
Just so the closing admin doesn't have to pick through this discussion, here is the alternative I supported:
-Propose renaming Category:Civics to Category:Active citizenship (Changed)
-Propose renaming Category:Global civics to Category:Global citizenship (As originally nominated) - RevelationDirect ( talk) 03:54, 6 August 2018 (UTC) reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Czech Lion Awards winners (people)

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: listify and delete. ℯ xplicit 05:47, 17 August 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Match the style of other categories, for instance Category:Recipients of the Distinguished Service Order and all other award categories that I know of. Catrìona ( talk) 23:25, 8 July 2018 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ℯ xplicit 03:57, 27 July 2018 (UTC) reply
  • I support Marcocapelle's suggestion--WP:OCAWARD applies here. Catrìona ( talk) 13:14, 27 July 2018 (UTC) reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Athletics clubs in the United States

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: no consensus. ℯ xplicit 05:47, 17 August 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: It is unclear how one can distinguish an "athletics club" from a general "sports club". This naming also presents ambiguity over whether the category relates to the sport of athletics, which is already covered at Category:Track and field clubs in the United States. SFB 15:11, 8 July 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Comment, quite a few articles are about gentlemen's clubs rather than a general sports club. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:10, 15 July 2018 (UTC) reply
    • In that case purge -- In American usage, I understand what I (in England) call athletics is "Track and field" in America. Possibly, the subject should be retained as a cat-redirect or a dab-category. Peterkingiron ( talk) 18:05, 15 July 2018 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ℯ xplicit 03:57, 27 July 2018 (UTC) reply
  • keep the name of the category describes that most of the entries in the category are: mixed sports clubs, not a single sport and certainly not just track and field. There is no reason to merge this into Category:Sports clubs in the United States which is largely just a parent category with few articles. Hmains ( talk) 17:50, 28 July 2018 (UTC) reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Steel Mills in Sindh

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Merge. Timrollpickering 20:20, 5 August 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: unnecessary intermediate category. Only one sub cat Rathfelder ( talk) 07:13, 8 July 2018 (UTC) reply
  • "If you think something needs to be upmerged, make sure that all parent categories are included in the nomination as merge targets (or make sure you have a good reason not to include all of the parents)." This advice can be found, not made long ago and buried in some obscure place far from Rathfelder's gaze, but on their own talk page in April 2018. I would be grateful if Rathfelder could commit either to heeding such advice or avoiding cfd and category space altogether. Oculi ( talk) 14:27, 8 July 2018 (UTC) reply
  • We havent broken down steel companies to any other regions. Even in the USA they are not broken down into states. There doesnt seem to be any good reason for this particular subdivision. The only entry is for companies in Karachi. The articles both seem to be about companies, not about the mills themselves, as is the case with many of the articles about steel mills.. Rathfelder ( talk) 14:48, 8 July 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Merge upwards to eliminate this layer - probably not a full upmerge. The only content is about Karachi, which can go direct into a Pakistan category. Peterkingiron ( talk) 18:12, 15 July 2018 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ℯ xplicit 03:57, 27 July 2018 (UTC) reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:War crimes committed by Ukrainian Insurgent Army

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering 20:21, 5 August 2018 (UTC) reply
Nominator's rationale: Catrìona ( talk) 01:07, 27 July 2018 (UTC) reply
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Retrieved from " https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2018_July_27&oldid=1073191677"