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Category:Current America women mayors

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge. Kbdank71 19:02, 23 September 2008 (UTC) reply
Category:Current America women mayors ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: It's not generally considered standard on Wikipedia to use the category system to distinguish current from former occupants of the same office. Suggest delete — but even if this is felt to be a keeper, it still unequivocally needs a rename to American mayors. Bearcat ( talk) 23:53, 16 September 2008 (UTC) reply

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Category:Numerical integration

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Numerical integration (quadrature). Category:Numerical differential equations has not been tagged for renaming so cannot be included in this nomination. If renaming that is also desired, please nominate it at CFD and properly tag it. Kbdank71 14:11, 29 September 2008 (UTC) reply
Propose renaming Category:Numerical integration to Category:Numerical quadrature
Nominator's rationale: Rename. "Numerical integration" is frequently also used to refer to integrating differential equations, as described in Numerical ordinary differential equations. Users would thus expect a "Numerical integration" category to contain such algorithms as forward Euler, Stormer-Verlet, etc. "Numerical quadrature" is more precise, and moreover the vast majority of articles currently in this category have "quadrature" in their title. TotientDragooned ( talk) 23:09, 16 September 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Weak oppose. As someone who actually does that from time to time, I'd never use the term numerical quadrature. Perhaps a rename is appropriate, but not that one. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 02:13, 18 September 2008 (UTC) reply
How about something like Numerical integration (quadrature), then? My only objection to "integration" is that the category is currently much more narrow than the name. TotientDragooned ( talk) 03:01, 20 September 2008 (UTC) reply
Well, the main article is Numerical integration, is it not? — Arthur Rubin (talk) 03:26, 20 September 2008 (UTC) reply
Where in the lead it even says "numerical integration" also refers to integration of ODEs. I can find plenty of books [1] that use the term only in this second sense. TotientDragooned ( talk) 05:42, 20 September 2008 (UTC) reply

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PaRappa and Lammy character categories

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The result of the discussion was: Delete all - jc37 09:43, 24 September 2008 (UTC) reply
Category:Characters in the PaRappa and Lammy games ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Unnecessary categories full of redirected pages. Wolfer68 ( talk) 19:51, 16 September 2008 (UTC) reply

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Category:Anshan

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Kbdank71 19:01, 23 September 2008 (UTC) reply
Propose renaming Category:Anshan to Category:Anshan, China
Nominator's rationale: Rename. The key article is at Anshan, China, due to there also having been an Anshan in ancient Persia. Either the article or the category needs renaming; the category looks the safer bet. Grutness... wha? 07:58, 16 September 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Rename per nom. Occuli ( talk) 15:01, 16 September 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Comment will that actually be confused? 3rd C. BC capital of Elam vs current city? 70.55.84.220 ( talk) 04:55, 17 September 2008 (UTC) reply
    • General convention is to have the category match the name of the key article where possible, especially when there is even the slightest possibility of confusion. In this case, though it's not overly likely there'd be confusion, it's still possible; it's exactly analogous to the reason why we don't have a category called Category:Memphis. Grutness... wha? 02:09, 18 September 2008 (UTC) reply

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Category:Former Five Percenters

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The result of the discussion was: delete, empty. Kbdank71 19:00, 23 September 2008 (UTC) reply
Category:Former Five Percenters ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Empty. Considering how obscure Five Percenters are (virtually by design), I find it hard to believe that this category is meaningful. If this was emptied for some reason without a CfD, then I withdraw this nomination. — Justin (koavf)TCM☯ 07:05, 16 September 2008 (UTC) reply

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Category:Sub-Jupiter mass planets

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Kbdank71 14:13, 29 September 2008 (UTC) reply
Category:Sub-Jupiter mass planets ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: This is a non-defining characteristic for planets. The dividing line at Jupiter is arbitrary. 70.51.9.124 ( talk) 06:13, 16 September 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Comment - see this discussion which resulted in the current name. Otto4711 ( talk) 07:39, 16 September 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - not a frequently-used term in the literature, and in any case most exoplanets only have lower limits on their masses (i.e. the true mass is greater than a certain number), which makes their membership in this category (defined as having a mass less than a certain number) insecure. Icalanise ( talk) 20:56, 16 September 2008 (UTC) reply
  • I've notified the folks at WT:AST to gain better consensus on this. -- Salix ( talk): 16:50, 26 September 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Jupiter seems to be used as a reference point for other planets (see List of stars with confirmed extrasolar planets where masses are listed as multiples of jupiters mass). -- Salix ( talk): 19:42, 26 September 2008 (UTC) reply
    • Comment stars are measured in solar masses, but we don't categorize stars into things that mass less or more than One Sun. We measure things in kilograms, but we don't divide things into stuff that is less than 1 kg and more than 1 kg. 70.55.203.112 ( talk) 05:49, 27 September 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - it is not practical to classify exoplanets by mass, and this is not a term that is well defined. -- mikeu talk 22:10, 28 September 2008 (UTC) reply

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Category:Sub-Earth mass planets

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Kbdank71 14:14, 29 September 2008 (UTC) reply
Category:Sub-Earth mass planets ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: This is a non-defining characteristic. The dividing line at Earth is arbitrary. 70.51.9.124 ( talk) 06:11, 16 September 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Comment - see this discussion which resulted in the current name. Otto4711 ( talk) 07:39, 16 September 2008 (UTC) reply
  • keep Earth seems to be the other reference point for planet masses see Super-Earth. -- Salix ( talk): 19:44, 26 September 2008 (UTC) reply
    • Comment from the Super-Earth article, the dividing line between a non-Super-Earth and a Super-Earth is not necessarily at 1 Earth mass, there is a variety of opinion on where that line is. 70.55.203.112 ( talk) 05:49, 27 September 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - same as my comment for sub-jupiter: it is not practical to classify exoplanets by mass, and this is not a term that is well defined. -- mikeu talk 22:11, 28 September 2008 (UTC) reply

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Category:Super-Jupiters

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Kbdank71 14:14, 29 September 2008 (UTC) reply
Suggest merging Category:Super-Jupiters to Category:gas giant planets
Nominator's rationale: Merge, This is a non-defining characteristic for planets. These are all giant planets, and the dividing line at Jupiter is arbitrary. 70.51.9.124 ( talk) 06:08, 16 September 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Weak support merge - the merger should be fine (Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a project dedicated to coming up with planetary classification schemes), but a couple of caveats: the term "super-Jupiter" has appeared in the literature, e.g. [2] though it is not a common term; also playing devil's advocate, we do not know if all planets in this mass range are in fact gas giants, though it is difficult to see under the context of current theoretical work how it could be otherwise. Icalanise ( talk) 16:12, 17 September 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Jupiter seems to be used as a reference point for other planets (see List of stars with confirmed extrasolar planets where masses are listed as multiples of jupiters mass). -- Salix ( talk): 19:42, 26 September 2008 (UTC) reply
    • Comment stars are measured in solar masses, but we don't categorize stars into things that mass less or more than One Sun. We measure things in kilograms, but we don't divide things into stuff that is less than 1 kg and more than 1 kg. 70.55.203.112 ( talk) 05:47, 27 September 2008 (UTC) reply
  • merge - i hate to repeat myself, but this one also: it is not practical to classify exoplanets by mass, and this is not a term that is well defined. -- mikeu talk 22:13, 28 September 2008 (UTC) reply

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Category:Immigration to Serbia

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Kbdank71 18:59, 23 September 2008 (UTC) reply
Category:Immigration to Serbia ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: One-article (which is a stub) cat, very unlikely to be populated further. + Hexagon1 ( t) 05:39, 16 September 2008 (UTC) reply

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Category:Pictures of Bahá'í individuals

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Images of Bahá'ís. Kbdank71 18:57, 23 September 2008 (UTC) reply
Propose renaming Category:Pictures of Bahá'í individuals to Category:Pictures of Bahá'ís
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Unnecessary wording. — Justin (koavf)TCM☯ 05:18, 16 September 2008 (UTC) reply

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Category:Anglican Bishops in the Diocese of Worcester

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Kbdank71 18:56, 23 September 2008 (UTC) reply
Propose renaming Category:Anglican Bishops in the Diocese of Worcester to Category:Anglican suffragan bishops in the Diocese of Worcester
Nominator's rationale: rename per standard of Category:Anglican suffragan bishops in the Province of Canterbury Bencherlite Talk 02:57, 16 September 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Rename per nom. Occuli ( talk) 15:07, 16 September 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Rename per nom. However, I am not suer of the value of these suffragan categories. Nevertheless, they were presumably kept on a previous discussion. The alternative would be to keep the presetn name and include the diocesan bishop as well, butn that would ahve to be done for all the otehr English dioceses. Peterkingiron ( talk) 23:27, 20 September 2008 (UTC) reply

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Category:Modern decades

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Kbdank71 18:57, 23 September 2008 (UTC) reply
Category:Modern decades ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Membership in the category is not really defined. I question whether decade nostalgia is adequately sourced to support a category, even if a proper definition were supplied. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 02:18, 16 September 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Even if we accept the validity of the definition, I'm pretty sure that the name is a bad one for this idea. But then again, I don't accept the validity of the definition. Why is it arbitrarily limited back to the 1950s? Hell, the way my grandpa talks about it, he has a serious case of nostalgia for the 1930s' Great Depression. What makes the 1950s "modern" but not the 1940s? (Do Nazis have nostalgia for the 1940s, or at least the early 1940s?) The article decade nostalgia cranks it back to the 1890s. Could someone not have nostalgia for a decade that is prior to their birth? Can't I be nostalgic for the 1320s? (Ah, the peasant revolt in Flanders—those were the days!) Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:57, 16 September 2008 (UTC) reply
  • The one that scares me is the inclusion of the 2000s. How can you be nostalgic for a decade you are still in. Delete. Hiding T 11:37, 16 September 2008 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per above. Decade nostalgia itself is in poor shape at present, consisting mostly of a pop culture history of the United States (a kind of "Wikipedia Loves the 80's", 70's, etc., via the wonders of OR selectivity and commentary) rather than a history of how "decade nostalgia" has manifested. Postdlf ( talk) 16:08, 16 September 2008 (UTC) reply

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