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Category:Six Flags parks and attractions
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The result of the debate was merge. –
Black Falcon (
Talk) 22:05, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Suggest merging
Category:Six Flags parks and attractions to
Category:Six Flags
- Nominator's rationale: Merge. No reason for this extra level. All of the roller coasters are being moved into a specific sub category. What's left here and in the parent are so few that we don't need two categories.
Vegaswikian (
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Category:Heritage Canada
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The result of the debate was rename to
Category:Department of Canadian Heritage. –
Black Falcon (
Talk) 22:07, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Propose renaming
Category:Heritage Canada to
Category:Canadian Heritage
- Nominator's rationale: Rename. Heritage Canada and Canadian Heritage are, confusingly, two different things. The
Heritage Canada article is about a non-governmental charitable foundation. The cultural department whose agencies are being categorized is in fact called
Department of Canadian Heritage. So Category:Canadian Heritage would be more accurate.--
Shawn in Montreal (
talk) 21:42, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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- That would be fine by me, too.
Shawn in Montreal (
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Category:Screenshots of The Big O
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The result of the debate was rename to
Category:The Big O media. --
BrownHairedGirl
(talk) • (
contribs) 18:01, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
Category:Screenshots of The Big O to
Category:The Big O media
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More inclusive name. This way, everything from screen shots, covers and artwork from the series can be categorized.
Nohansen 00:08, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
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Canadian councillors
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The result of the debate was rename all as nominated. –
Black Falcon (
Talk) 22:30, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
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More inclusive name for the categories. The ultimate reason why this is necessary is revealed by the fact that a capital C is the only thing currently distinguishing the category for city councillors in the province of Quebec from the category for city councillors in
Quebec City.
Bearcat 11:47, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
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- As above, though I agree with that idea, it isn't a speediable change, so should be in the main list.
Grutness...
wha? 00:21, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
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- The only reason it's even getting listed anywhere is that I haven't been able to boot into my Windows partition for about six weeks now, so I can't do an AWB run by myself. It'd have been done over a month ago if I could have. Try as I might, I just can't make myself see it as a change that requires any kind of debate.
Bearcat 09:13, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
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- I agree that there probably won't be any objection to it, but it's not covered by any of the types of change which can be speedied (as listed above) - it is possible that someone would be able to think of a reason to keep city and town categories separate.
Grutness...
wha? 22:42, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Moved from speedy.----
Mike Selinker (
talk) 21:22, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Support rename per nom. (The double-l spelling of "councillor" is correct in Canadian spelling and should be retained.)
Snocrates (
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Category:Journalism academics
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The result of the debate was No consensus to rename this specific category. - The broader issue seems to be defining the difference between "academic" and "scholar" as used in these category sets (and how all the categories are subcategorised). Let's figure out the inclusion criteria before starting merges/renames. (Incidentally, I presume that the "mergeto/mergefrom" template set is inappropriate for categories. Merges are typically nominated for discussion on CfD.) I hope that closure of this CFD doesn't stop the broader discussion being continued on a talk page "somewhere". -
jc37 13:04, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Propose renaming
Category:Journalism academics to
Category:Journalism scholars
- Nominator's rationale: Rename. Like legal scholars, many journalism scholars are not in the academy, or only teach as adjuncts. Of the 10 scholars in the category, about half are not tenure-track academics, but either adjuncted or had administrative positions at journalism "centers" at universities. They are certainly "journalism scholars" and there is no reason to distinguish between the full-time tenure-track academics and those who have done scholarship through other types of positions. ----
Lquilter (
talk) 21:12, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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- I only found two "scholars of" formulas: Scholars of Marxism and Scholars of antisemitism. I'm not sure the more explicit formulation is needed here -- "Journalism scholars" seems pretty clear -- but I don't object if consensus goes that way. --
Lquilter (
talk) 04:29, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
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- There are a variety of formulae:
Category:Talmudists,
Category:Scholars of Marxism,
Category:Biblical scholars and some rather ambiguous ones -
Category:Feminist scholars is I suppose not "Scholars of Feminism", nor
Category:Middle East scholars (only 2 members) only for people from the Middle east. It's not about clarity, but grammar.
Category:International relations scholars and
Category:African American studies scholars are I think the only "non-proper noun+scholar" combos at present, & they should be changed too, to "Scholars of...".
Johnbod (
talk) 04:50, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Agree on the latter two categories you mention, but not on the reason1 The only reason we ought to care about the grammar in this instance I think is only to aid clarity. (Intl relations scholars is not actually that confusing but it's funny....) --
Lquilter
- Rename per Johnbod's formulation. While for Biblical scholars (presumably those scholars are not actually in the Bible at least not the one I read in Sunday School), and probably the cat in question, little ambiguity will arise, we can standardize these so that for the categories where adjective-scholars leaves ambiguity we resolve the ambiguity by the title.
Carlossuarez46 (
talk) 07:13, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Strong oppose - I noticed that Lquilter has posted a template on the
Category:Academics by subject page suggesting that the entire category tree be merged into
Category:Scholars by subject. I have to say that I am very concerned about the idea of erasing all distinctions between scholars and academics. Granted they are very similar, and there is, of course, considerable overlap. But, whereas Lquilter has focused on the fact that some of these individuals may not, strictly speaking, be "in the academy" (and I would not include adjuncts in that group), I think there is another issue that has been overlooked thus far in this discussion: while all academics devote at least some of their work hours (in the case of adjuncts, all of their paid work hours) to teaching, unaffiliated scholars have no such requirement, and may well do no teaching whatsoever. So I think it would be a serious mistake to rush headlong into a change of name on this category without taking into consideration the issue I've raised (and possibly others), as well as the implications for the larger category structure.
Cgingold (
talk) 18:37, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Oppose. There is a good reason for having separate category trees for scholars and acdemics, because "
academic" is a fairly precise term, defined in the article
academic as "a person who works as a researcher (and usually teacher) at a university or similar institution". A
scholar may be a person who works alone, without benefit of the structured peer review which distinguishes academia from other types of scholarship.
In any case, this category looks more like a stalking horse for the whole of
Category:Academics by subject. That may be a discussion worth having, but if so, the whole tree should be nominated. In the meantime, the problems of category usage which the nominator identifies should be resolved by removing the administrators from the category, and moving the non-academic scholars to a new
Category:Journalism scholars. --
BrownHairedGirl
(talk) • (
contribs) 20:58, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
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- The trouble is there is usually no crosslinking of any kind between the two trees at present, which is not helpful to readers. In the case of a few areas, like law, journalism & perhaps religion, academics who have never practiced are often at a disadvantage & people cross in & out of academia. Plus fields with many scholars before the expansion of universities are difficult - Darwin cannot be called an academic.
Johnbod (
talk) 01:46, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
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- For me, this category is an issue because journalism scholars, like legal scholars, are particularly prone to not being in the academy. There's only ten in the category and I don't see the advantage of splitting them into two (or three) categories. (All of those with "academic administrator" positions are also scholars, so,
Category:Journalism scholars and
Category:Journalism academics would accurately take care of all ten, I believe.) I suspect that most users would look for these people because of their scholarship, not their teaching or full-time-ness at a university. --
Lquilter (
talk) 13:17, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
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- In reply to Johnbod, surely the simple solution to that problem is that every "foo academics" category should be a subcat of "foo scholars"? You can't be an academic without being a scholar, but not very scholar is an academic, as is illustrated by your example of Darwin. --
BrownHairedGirl
(talk) • (
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- Comment - I'm glad to see someone noticed that notice! Please notice this as well: I'm not proposing the whole tree at CFD because it needs much more discussion and thought; hence, I posted the note at the category for discussion there. (That's procedure, no?) I'm looking at individual categories right now and trying to make them make sense. This one was clearly problematic for the reasons described above, as was "
Category:Legal academics" (now
Category:Legal scholars) a week ago. It would be great to have discussion of the scholars/academics issue, and the distinction is relevant to this CFD, but let's not let the numerous significant issues with the broader category trees overwhelm the issues with this particular topic right now. (Ahem; I think of this cat nom is not so much a "stalking horse" as cleaning up the two existing category trees so that better discussion can be had about them.) --
Lquilter (
talk) 12:24, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Comment: I had the very same idea for renaming all of the subcategories to variants of
Category:Xxxx scholars and academics, though I'm not sure it would work well for those fields with longer names. But I do think this is something we should give very serious consideration to.
Cgingold (
talk) 22:45, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Do you think that's the preferred solution for this category,
Category:Journalism academics? Or can
Category:Journalism scholars work for this category? (with the understanding, of course, that it's not intended to be (and can't serve as) a precedent for all the other fields of scholars or academics) --
Lquilter (
talk) 00:46, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Spoiler warning templates
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The result of the debate was delete. --
BrownHairedGirl
(talk) • (
contribs) 18:08, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
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-
Category:Spoiler warning templates (
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logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Only one item in the category which is currently up for deletion as well. --
Axem Titanium (
talk) 21:06, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Keep I object. I believe spoiler warnings are necessary. It doesn't say that the reader is stupid or anything and those Wikipedia straw polls have proven that users want to keep them. I've been looking for them to use forever and I can't find them! They're quite important. Keep the category, and keep the spoiler templates!
ForestAngel (
talk) 06:39, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Comment I don't see your Overturn vote at the
Template:Spoiler deletion review.
- You don't need a template. Plain text spoiler notice tags still work.
Milo 09:26, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Comment All I've ever seen at the DRV, RFC, TFDs on spoilers is what should amount to no-consensus. (except for early ones, which were all keep).
132.205.44.5 (
talk) 04:11, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom.
Carlossuarez46 (
talk) 07:09, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Keep with rename to Category:Spoiler notice templates It's a notice, not a warning - there is no danger.
Milo 09:26, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Postpone until the discussions at
WP:DRV and
WP:TfD are completed. --
Farix (
Talk) 13:28, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Postpone until the relevant discussions are over.
132.205.44.5 (
talk) 04:11, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Delete if TfD is closed as delete (which seems very likely, atm). (DRV concluded as Endorse deletion). ++
Arx Fortis (
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Category:Colossus class battleships
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The result of the debate was rename. –
Black Falcon (
Talk) 22:51, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Propose renaming
Category:Colossus class battleships to
Category:Colossus class battleships (1910)
- Nominator's rationale: There were two Colossus classes: one in
1910 and one in
1882. There is already a
Category:Colossus class battleships (1882); this one needs to be renamed to make the difference between the two clear. This is a common type of rename, and there are
several
examples of identically named class categories disambiguated by year in use already. --
TomTheHand (
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Interchanges
Amphibious assault ships -> Amphibious warfare vessels
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The result of the debate was merge/rename as nominated. –
Black Falcon (
Talk) 22:58, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Suggest merging
Category:Amphibious assault ships to
Category:Amphibious warfare vessels
- Suggest renaming:
- Nominator's rationale: The purpose of this merge is to standardize naming of categories for amphibious warfare vessels, which are kind of a mess now. The change from "amphibious assault" to "amphibious warfare" is because "amphibious assault ship" is a fairly specific term, and does not reflect how the categories are actually used. They are being used to categorize a variety of ships involved in amphibious warfare. The change from "ships" to "vessels" is intended to allow the categories to be used for
vessels
that
aren't
really
ships.
TomTheHand 15:06, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Steamboat Companies in Pacific Northwest
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The result of the debate was double merge, as suggested by
Bencherlite. –
Black Falcon (
Talk) 23:07, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Suggest merging
Category:Steamboat Companies in Pacific Northwest to
Category:UNKNOWN
- Nominator's rationale:: Merge this overly-narrow, orphaned category to somewhere, but I don't know where. Any ideas? (all three companies were based in
Oregon). --
BrownHairedGirl
(talk) • (
contribs) 14:48, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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- PS That's the end of today's
orphaned categories. --
BrownHairedGirl
(talk) • (
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Category:Steamboats in Pacific Northwest
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The result of the debate was Delete - all the category's members are already in
Category:Paddle steamers except
Ilwaco Railway and Navigation Company (which probably shouldn't be in this category either). The members are: two related boats - one was built from the other - which link to each other in their articles; Two lists of boats - one which is under
Category:Paddle steamers of British Columbia (a subcat of
Category:Paddle steamers); and one which is directly under
Category:Paddle steamers. As the two latter examples would appear to show, "by geographic location" is probably better suited to lists. -
jc37 13:47, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Suggest merging
Category:Steamboats in Pacific Northwest to
Category:UNKNOWN
- Nominator's rationale: Merge this overly-narrow orphaned category to somewhere, but I don't know where.
Category:Paddle steamers isn't quite accurate, and
Category: Steamships seems too broad. Any ideas? --
BrownHairedGirl
(talk) • (
contribs) 14:44, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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Merge to
Category:Steamships as that's full of individual articles about steamboats / steamships. If somebody wants to create "Steamships by country" structure (or whatever the appropriate preposition is ("by", "of" or "from", I can never remember the conventions...)), fine; until then, the head category is probably sufficient.
Bencherlite
Talk 15:13, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Delete This is a nonstandard category name on several counts. Both articles in the category are, in fact, paddle steamers. Both belong in
Category:Paddle steamers and
Category:Passenger ships of the United States, which I will take care of now.
Maralia 15:58, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Delete Maralia's analysis is better than my previous attempt and, now that the articles are appropriately categorised, this category is redundant.
Category:Paddle steamers is a sub-cat of
Category:Steamships and is more appropriate, looking at the article as a whole - I was misled by the first description in the articles being effectively "it's a steamboat", rather than "it's a paddle steamer"...
Bencherlite
Talk 17:43, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Gangs in the United States of America
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The result of the debate was rename. A general switch from "United States" to "United States of America" would require discussion at a much more general level than a single CFD nomination. –
Black Falcon (
Talk) 22:02, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
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-
Category:Gangs in the United States of America (
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- Rename to
Category:Gangs in the United States, to match
United States. --
Prove It
(talk) 14:34, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Propaganda phrases
Category:Safety Engineering
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The result of the debate was merge. –
Black Falcon (
Talk) 21:58, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Suggest merging
Category:Safety Engineering to
Category:Safety engineering
- Nominator's rationale: Merge as duplicate, possible speedy (capitalisation error).
BrownHairedGirl
(talk) • (
contribs) 14:13, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Controversies involving tasers
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The result of the debate was rename as nominated. The taser is only one type of
electroshock weapon. While the renaming of
Electroshock weapon controversy is outside the scope of this nomination, various factors argue against it. Most notably, the defining element of electroshock weapon controversies is the fact of use of such a device ... it doesn't matter whether the device is a taser or an electric shock prod. –
Black Falcon (
Talk) 21:57, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Propose renaming
Category:Controversies involving tasers to
Category:Electroshock weapon controversies
- Nominator's rationale: Rename to match head article
Electroshock weapon controversy. --
BrownHairedGirl
(talk) • (
contribs) 13:06, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Rename. I found this category via
Special:Uncategorizedcategories, and cat sorted it. I agree with the nominator's rationale that
Category:Electroshock weapon controversies is more appropriate. -
Mtmelendez (
Talk) 13:13, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
reply
- Rename. Created the category was unsure if I shouldve used tasers or electroshock weapons.
Kuzwa 14:24, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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- just for future reference, the general principle in naming categories is follow the title of the main article. There are some situations where that doesn't work, but not many, and if there is a main aricle, it's usually best to follow that. --
BrownHairedGirl
(talk) • (
contribs) 15:09, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Rename per nom. --
Carlossuarez46 (
talk) 17:49, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Rename per nom
Travtim
(Talk) 20:37, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Comment as an Englishman, I have heard the term "taser", but not "electroshock weapons". I assume "taser" is an acronym, not a brand. Certianly there should only be one category. If the article has a differnet name, that should be renamed. Electroshock weapons would make me think of the cattle prods (allegedly) used by certain totalitarian regimes as instruments of torture, but they are somethign quite different.
Peterkingiron (
talk) 23:42, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
reply
- agree, WTF is an electrashockothingy?
Ephebi (
talk) 18:01, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
reply
- Don't rename category; rename main article instead. BrownHairedGirl's reasoning is sound, but in this case, the principle of using the most commonly known name should apply. Every other media refers to them as tasers. We wouldn't change
Category:Heroin to
Category:Diacetylmorphine for the same reason. Taser is both an acronym and a brand name, but the brand is synonymous with the product in everyday usage.
bobanny (
talk) 08:48, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Old Forres Sandle Manor Students
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The result of the debate was delete. –
Black Falcon (
Talk) 23:05, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
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-
Category:Old Forres Sandle Manor Students (
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logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Delete single-article category rescued from
the orphanage,possible hoax. There is no article on the school, and the sole article in the category is
Olly Morgan, which not only fails to mention the school, but lists him in the infobox as having attended
Millfield School. Neither of the two profiles of him linked from the article mentions Old Forres Sandle Manor, although the school does appear to exist: see
http://www.forressandlemanor.com --
BrownHairedGirl
(talk) • (
contribs) 13:02, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Delete - although Google shows no link, it may not be a hoax as the school appears to be a
prep school (i.e. education to age 13). Delete because Wikipedia doesn't categorize people by educational establishment at that age. I have readded
Category:Old Millfieldians to Olly Morgan's article as multiple sources indicate that he went there (see
google search).
Bencherlite
Talk 13:41, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
reply
- Delete. It doesn't make much sense to keep such a category when there's not even an article for the school itself. We may want it someday, but then it should be named to match the format of
Category:People by school in England. --
Prove It
(talk) 14:23, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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Category:Jesuit colleges in India
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The result of the debate was keep. –
Black Falcon (
Talk) 23:01, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
reply
Suggest merging
Category:Jesuit colleges in India to
Category:Jesuit schools in India
Nominator's rationale: Merge as duplicate. All these institutions appear to be schools, it's just that some of them are called "foo College", a common naming convention for Jesuit schools.
BrownHairedGirl
(talk) • (
contribs) 12:46, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Nomination withdrawn (see below). --
BrownHairedGirl
(talk) • (
contribs) 17:53, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Merge per nom; "College" in India can be used in the sense of High School in the US or UK. --
Carlossuarez46 (
talk) 17:50, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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Merge per nom & Carlos. Keep In fact all of these offer degree courses.
Johnbod (
talk) 17:13, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Not for the first time, you are quite right! I should have checked more thoroughly, and have withdrawn the nonination. --
BrownHairedGirl
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Category:Religious organizations which tolerate polygamy
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The result of the debate was delete. While an article about religious views on polygamy would probably be viable, the stance of a religion or a religious organisation on polygamy is not a defining attribute. As hinted at by
Carlossuarez46, most religions have dozens or hundreds of similar tenets. –
Black Falcon (
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- Nominator's rationale: This category is empty except for the subcategory
Category:Mormon fundamentalism, which has (some of) the same parent categories as this one. Suggest deleting until needed. Alternatively, can it be populated with anything?
Snocrates 11:55, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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- I may be thinking of
Category:Polygamists - an entire tree -- which poses very different issues. I could have sworn there was an XFD about religions that tolerate polygamy that was most aimed at picking up Mormons & Islam, but I can't find it. --
Lquilter (
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- Rename and populate to
Category:Religions that allow polygamy. This would mean that Islam (or certain branches of it) would appear. If a different term were found to include it, Tibetan polyandry might also be included. I suspect that there are other places with polygamy is allowed.
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Category:Crime in fiction
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The result of the debate was Delete - "Crime in fiction" is too broad, as noted by
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jc37 13:11, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Suggest merging
Category:Crime in fiction to
Category:Crime fiction
- Nominator's rationale: Merge, This category only contains
Category:Crime fiction . --
Eliyak
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- Delete while a nuanced distinction could be drawn, there is no apparent attempt to do so, and it probably wouldn't be keepable as many non-"crime fiction" fictional books have some crime happening in them: much of Mark Twain's output and the whole genre of mysteries could be shoehorned into that. --
Carlossuarez46 (
talk) 17:55, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Keep and populate Crime occurs in fiction which is not crime fiction. Quite a few crimes form the basis of non-crime fiction stories, where the consequences of the crime (such as war) is the focus. --
132.205.99.122 (
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- Delete "Crime fiction" usually refers to "whodunits". This one would include a wide range of thrillers involving murder; historical novels where some one did an act that would now be judged to be criminal; indeed novels of all genres may refer to crime in passing. The category is thus much to wide to be useful.
Peterkingiron (
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- Comment fictional crimes would not fit under crime fiction.
132.205.99.122 (
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Category:Members of Associazione Culturale Nove
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The result of the debate was delete. –
Black Falcon (
Talk) 21:50, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Nominator's rationale: Delete. Single-article
orphaned category. The lone article
Jerry Ross (painter) doesn't mention the Associazione Culturale Nove, and there is no article
Associazione Culturale Nove. If such an article is written, it's members could be listed in the article. --
BrownHairedGirl
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Category:Gator Olympians
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- The result of the discussion was: Delete by
User:Spartaz, procedural close by
Carlossuarez46 (
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- Nominator's rationale: Delete. I'm not entirely sure what this category is intended for, but my best guess so far is that it is intended to include athletes from the
Florida Gators who later participate in the olympics. This seems to me to be a vary narrow intersection, with limited possibility for growth (and great potential for category clutter if replicated for other sports clubs); the 5 athletes concerned should be listed in the article
Florida Gators . --
BrownHairedGirl
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- Delete we don't need to sub categorize people by school+olympic participation. --
Carlossuarez46 (
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- I'm going to nuke this now. It was created by a sock of the indef blocked user WOverstreet.
Spartaz
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Category:People from Sheldon
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The result of the debate was keep.--
Mike Selinker (
talk) 01:45, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Suggest merging
Category:People from Sheldon to
Category:People from Birmingham, England
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge, overly narrow division of
Category:People from Birmingham, England, with limited potential for growth. Council wards are too small a unit to subdivide the population of English cities; Birmingham has 40 council wards, an creating a category for each of them would merely divide a category of useable size into 40 undersized categories. Additionally, council wards are not stable units, being subject to periodic review by the
Boundary Committee for England. --
BrownHairedGirl
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Keep The area has been inhabited since before the
Domesday Book - it may be a council ward now but it will not disappear if boundaries are changed. The category member
Increase Nowell is simply not from Birmingham - Sheldon had no link to the city in 1590. Any wider geographical category will be inaccurate (either currently or historically).
Aatomic1 11:57, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Reply the same applies to countless other small geographical divisions of England, and of many other countries. Unless we are going to create thousands of tiny categories of people-by-place-in-England, we have to accept some imprecision. One possible solution is to also categorise the people by whatever county they would have been before the city boundaries were extended to include
Sheldon. --
BrownHairedGirl
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- Categories exist to aid navigation. Do we really want to start splitting the 390 articles in
Category:People from Birmingham, England into 40 subdivisions (one per ward), with an average of 9 articles in each? Categories exist to assist reader navigation, and that only impedes navigation. People move around within cities, so many biographical articles would be categorised under more than one subdivision of Brum, creating category clutter. --
BrownHairedGirl
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-
Comment - Sheldon was (I think) an ancient parish, with well-defined boundaries, as were Yardley, Edgbaston and Harborne. Erdington, Ward End, Moseley, and Selly Oak (though not parishes) were historical administrative entities with known boundaries. The problem is that these have been amalgamated into the City of Birmingham, becoming mere wards. The need for wards to have similar electorates, means that their boundaries are altered periodically. This measn tha that the extent of a category based on ward boundaries is potentially unstable, while a category based on historical (i.e. obsolete) boundaries is also unsatisfactory. On the other hand, such historical adminstrative entities continue to exist as distinct communities, often based on these obsolete boundaries. Nevertheless, there are difficulties: Perry Barr is used for places are are near Perry Barr Station, but in fact not within the historic boundary of Perry Barr. I cannot offer a satisfactory solution to his problem; my reaction is thus to Leave as it is. Such categories (if retained) should be subcategories of "people form Birmingham".
Peterkingiron (
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Category:Particle in a box
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The result of the debate was merge. –
Black Falcon (
Talk) 21:48, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Suggest merging
Category:Particle in a box to
Category:Quantum models
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge two-article category with little scope for expansion. (rescued from
the orphanage). --
BrownHairedGirl
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- Merge inclusion in the larger category is sufficient, cannot be expected to become populated as a separate category
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Category:Theorem provers
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The result of the debate was Rename
Category:Theorem provers to
Category:Theorem proving software systems. "Automated" would seem to refer to the task or process, not to the software itself. And in looking over the category members, it's clear that these are "software systems". (Which should also help give the category a bit more
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jc37 13:23, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Propose renaming
Category:Theorem provers to
Category:Theorem proving software
- Nominator's rationale: Most categories used for software have either "software" or "(software)" as part of the name. Thus quickly identified in lists of subcategories and supporting "Category:software" searches.
tooold 08:57, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Support That is clearly the case
Travtim
(Talk) 20:47, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Just noticed - the main article is
Automated theorem proving thus a better rename would be to "Automated theorem proving software".
tooold (
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- Question aren't the words "automated" and "software" largely redundant? Not all software is automated, but I don't see how theorem proving can be automated without software. --
BrownHairedGirl
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- "I have some Automated Theorem Proving software". "I have some Automated Theorem Proving". The 2nd sentence doesn't work. So "software" is not redundant in the sense of being an understood meaning when omitted.
tooold (
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- Possibly instead of "better", I should have said "consistent with the naming convention of adding "software" to the article name.
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Category:People from Orlando Florida
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The result of the debate was merge. –
Black Falcon (
Talk) 21:47, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Suggest merging
Category:People from Orlando Florida to
Category:People from Orlando, Florida
- Nominator's rationale: Merge as duplicate, possible speedy. (I found this one in
the orphanage).
BrownHairedGirl
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Subcategories of Category:Political parties in Indian states
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The result of the debate was rename main category to
Category:Political parties in India by state and all subcategories to "Political parties in (state name). This matches
Category:Cities and towns in India by state.--
Mike Selinker (
talk) 01:56, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Propose renaming All subcats of
Category:Political parties in Indian states.
- Nominator's rationale: I'm proposing all subcategories of this be renamed to more normal titles; for example, I think
Category:Indian political parties-Sikkim should become
Category:Political parties of Sikkim, or something similar. The current names, with these dashes, are unnecessarily awkward.
Picaroon
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- Comment I do think it worth keeping the fact that these are federal states in India, not countries, in the titles.
Johnbod (
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- Comment The present category titles are unsatisfactory, but the appropriate solution needs to be determined by Indian Wikipedians, who are familiar with their own political system, not by foreigners (like me).
- Comment: The subcats were created at the time when the standard naming scheme for political parties by country was 'Fooian political parties'. I do see the point of the nominator of making the scheme more neat, avoiding the dashes. However, we should bear in mind that:
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Category: Runestones, Skåne
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The result of the debate was merge. –
Black Falcon (
Talk) 21:45, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Propose merging:
Category:Runestones, Skåne into
Category:Runestones in Scania
- Nominator's rationale: The main entry is
Scania. Two duplicating categories exist for the same articles: "Runestones in Scania"/"Runestones, Skåne". Following the decision in another renaming discussion,
[1] where it was decided that the name should be in the format "Runestones in Scania", I suggest a merger of "Runestones, Skåne" into that category, rather than the other way around. The articles in this newly created and newly populated category were moved here by depopluating
Category:Runestones in Scania.
Pia 02:13, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Support per above.--
Berig 16:31, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Support per nom; this was already resolved before. --
Carlossuarez46 (
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- Merge as duplicate
Travtim
(Talk) 20:51, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Support. There should not be two categories with almost the same name. As Scania is used as the English name for Skåne, it is perhaps the best solution. Perhaps the other provincial categories should be completed with the word "in", just for the uniformity. But it is not that important. But the merger of the two categories is. --
Muniswede (
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Category:Web mashups
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The result of the debate was delete. –
Black Falcon (
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- Nominator's rationale: Delete one item category, that could probably contain more as the definition of the term in our article is sufficiently loosey-goosey that nearly all web applications may qualify so ultimately not-defining.
Carlossuarez46 01:41, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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Category:U.S. Route 36
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The result of the debate was delete. –
Black Falcon (
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- Nominator's rationale: Delete two article category for a road, not much room for expansion.
Carlossuarez46 01:12, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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Category:The Gazette
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The result of the debate was delete. –
Black Falcon (
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- Nominator's rationale: Delete eponymous category for a band per multiple precedents.
Carlossuarez46 01:10, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom and multiple previous instances. (There was a song floating around in this category, which I moved to
Category:The Gazette songs).
Bencherlite
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- Delete overly generic. What about the many newspapers called "The Gazette" which would more usually appropriate this category. --
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Category:Lists of Desperate Housewives characters
Category:Interstate 72
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The result of the debate was delete. –
Black Falcon (
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- Nominator's rationale: Delete one-item category for a 300km stretch of road, not much room for expansion of either the road or the category.
Carlossuarez46 01:04, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Delete, mostly per nom. (The road could be expanded coast-to-coast, but until it is the category ain't needed).</pedant> --
BrownHairedGirl
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- Delete per nom
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