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The result was merged to Simon Jacobson. bd2412 T 11:52, 2 May 2018 (UTC) reply

Yosef Yitzchak Jacobson

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Yosef Yitzchak Jacobson appears fairly non-notable. The only possibly notable thing is his Chaplaincy Address to the Pentagon. The problem with that however is that the only source is a local church-based news site tooting its own horn about their own rabbi. I believe this article cannot stand on its own. The only salvageable item (the chaplaincy address) if it is worth saving, should be in a family section of his brother Simon Jacobson. Jcmcc ( Talk) 18:02, 16 April 2018 (UTC) reply

  • Give this article the benefit of the doubt. I think that his being the redactor of a Yiddish journal is also notable. In any case, I would have recommended to tag this with various "Citation needed" and "More footnotes" templates, and revisit the notability question after those were resolved. My gut-feeling is that adding a few sources will resolve the notability question quickly enough. Debresser ( talk) 23:40, 18 April 2018 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. MT Train Talk 13:06, 17 April 2018 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 22:52, 18 April 2018 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles ( talk) 03:05, 24 April 2018 (UTC) reply
I beg to differ. I see no reason to doubt that the source is independent. Assertion will not do for proof. Debresser ( talk) 21:39, 29 April 2018 (UTC) reply
You don't see how the official website for Chabad Lubavitch isn't independent coverage of a Chabad rabbi? The fact the reference starts In a speech hailed by one priest as the most inspiring talk since Martin Luther King Jr. suggests it's not neutral coverage either. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 21:42, 29 April 2018 (UTC) reply
That is not what "independent" is about. The source is in no way influenced by the rabbi, ergo it is independent. According to your logic anything any publication affiliated with Chabad writes about any Chabad rabbi would be "not independent", and the same for anything any Jewish publication wrote about any rabbi etc. This is absurd. Please also notice that there are 4 more sources in the article, and almost every statement in this short article is sourced. Debresser ( talk) 21:54, 29 April 2018 (UTC) reply
What don't you like about an attributed statement in the source? It doesn't say "This was the most inspiring speech etc.", because that would be bad journalism. It states a fact "There was somebody there who was so inspired that he said that etc." That is attribution and good journalism. Sorry, Power~enwiki, but I feel you are on a witch-hunt, and are making up problems where there are none. Debresser ( talk) 04:00, 30 April 2018 (UTC) reply
I feel you are on a witch-hunt please strike that comment. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 04:03, 30 April 2018 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.