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The result was redirect to Nahal Oz attack. Daniel ( talk) 21:37, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
Yaniv Zohar
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Tragic death, but Zohar is non-notable as a journalist, and his killing does not seem as if will receive sustained coverage. His death has been covered by major Israeli news outlets the same way many non-notable Israelis killed in the October 7 attack have been covered, and by outlets he was affiliated with as a photojournalist. I could not find any significant coverage before October 7. Mooonswimmer 16:55, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Keep and move to
Killing of Yaniv Zohar. His killing has enough sources for an article on it, but there is not enough for a biopgraphy, and per
WP:BIO1E we should cover the event instead of the person when that person is only notable in the context of a single event. Same reasoning as in
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Samer Abu Daqqa.
nableezy - 16:57, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- I would say the notable event is the October 7 attack in which he was killed.
- If you look for a list of every Israeli killed in the attack and Google their names one by one, chances are that for each victim, you'll get an article covering them in The Times of Israel and at least one other Israeli publication. Zohar's killing received a bit of extra coverage by the outlets he was affiliated with as an employee (AP News, Israel HaYom). We will end up with a "Killing of X" article for every other victim if we consider two or three sources covering their death enough coverage. Mooonswimmer 17:08, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Journalism and Israel. Deltaspace42 ( talk • contribs) 17:03, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to Nahal Oz attack: That's about all there is to it, this individual was just a working reporter that died in the context that article describes. Oaktree b ( talk) 21:16, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect into Killing of journalists in the 2023 Israel–Hamas war, where this journalist is mentioned. All this as BIO1E. This destination is preferred over the List of journalists killed in the 2023 Israel–Hamas war that comes with the article, because the list should be merged into Killing of journalists in the 2023 Israel–Hamas war as well. Yet the list is also a valid destination, as right now it exists alongside. Both would be legitimate destinations. My recommendation holds unless RS/I/V previous coverage ON this journalist is found. Always hard to find sources ON journalists as blurred by materials BY a journalist. So just tag me if you have it. I apply exactly the same standards for all sides and sorts. gidonb ( talk) 03:36, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Keep and redirect Per nableezy. His death received non trivial media coverage, in multiple reliable sources, and therefore meets
WP:EVENT.
HilbertSpaceExplorer (
talk) 10:45, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- See my reply too @ Nableezy above. Mooonswimmer 11:24, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect into Killing of journalists in the 2023 Israel–Hamas war, where this journalist is mentioned. // Timothy :: talk 07:22, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting because of divided opinion and two different Redirect target articles suggested.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:02, 26 December 2023 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 19:14, 2 January 2024 (UTC)- Redirect to List of journalists killed in the 2023 Israel–Hamas war, without prejudice to that list being merged into the article Killing of journalists in the 2023 Israel–Hamas war if someone wanted to propose that merger in the future. AFAIK there were 4 journalists killed on Oct 7; I don't see that RS cover this one journalist more or less than the others; I don't see any of them being independently notable. I don't really see that those 4 are "more notable" than all the other journalists killed during this war. Wikipedia is WP:NOT a directory of victims, and that's an argument against having such a list at all, but that argument should be had separately from this AFD. So while the list exists, redirect to the list, which will have the most information about this topic. Levivich ( talk) 18:56, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- We can't keep this stab as no separate notability was shown but can redirect to Nahal Oz attack. He was not killed because he was a journalist but because he was in Nahal Oz. We should still list him in List of journalists killed in the 2023 Israel–Hamas war. With regards, Oleg Y. ( talk) 17:55, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist. There are now 3 different Redirect/Merge target articles mentioned here which means that this discussion may close as No consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:42, 9 January 2024 (UTC)- I'm ok if we redirect or merge to the list of journalists killed in the war.
Oaktree b (
talk) 02:37, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect: to Nahal Oz attack - not a person or event with any real standalone
- notability outside of the redirect target page. Iskandar323 ( talk) 18:14, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- I'm ok if we redirect or merge to the list of journalists killed in the war.
Oaktree b (
talk) 02:37, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
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