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The result was delete. postdlf ( talk) 17:19, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
Vibhas Sen
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Does not meet the notability criteria for paralympic athletes. He has not even competed at the Paralympics, much less won a medal (as required at WP:NSPORTS). A desire to compete at the 2016 games is not enough to show notability. Mdtemp ( talk) 19:29, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
- The paralympic athlete in question here - Vibhas Sen has been qualified and will be representing the nation at World Championship. Agreed that would be the first International competition that the athlete would be participating in and hence there is a lack of good references but that alone does not make is less notable. It is just unfortunate that the media in country in question here does not give much value to the sports and hence lack of references. Mdtemp - are you saying that a national level athlete in particular country is not notable? I think, am missing something here. Would you mind explaining a bit here? In my humble opinion, the paralympic athletes would be representing a country on an international stage and automatically makes him notable.
Mananshah15 ( talk) 22:14, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
Here I will have to agree with Mananshah15. The reason that Vibhas Sen has not got sufficient notability is because the sport is not widely covered by our national media. Having said that, we will surely receive a lot of good references in the future as he is participating in the world championship. His participation will generate a similar buzz as it did with Shiva Keshavan (Indian luge Athlete) when he participated in Sochi. Ekaagar ( talk) 06:10, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
Keep - In complete agreement with Mananshah15. As per the current references provided it is clearly understandable that Vibhas Sen would be representing our country on an international stage which in itself makes him notable enough to be here. Additional references will organically pop up with once the tournament inches closer. Again, the sad state of media in India should not be a reason for an international level athlete to be excluded from this platform. I vote for Keep Gaurav.jhala88 ( talk) 06:17, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
- The fact you admit he hasn't received much coverage shows he doesn't meet WP:GNG and he doesn't meet the notability criteria for paralympic athletes (see WP:NOLYMPICS). Saying he will have coverage someday is WP:CRYSTALBALL. Right now he doesn't appear to be notable by WP standards. When he is, then the article can be recreated. Please remember that routine sports coverage does not count towards meeting GNG. Mdtemp ( talk) 18:01, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
- KeepThe athelete will be competing in World Championships this month. The First Pointer of
WP:CRYSTALBALL says that person participating in near future important international competition event could make him notable. Vibhas Sen as per the press coverage says he will be participating in World Championship in third week of November '14. I believe he could be categorised as notable. Thoughts
Mdtemp?
Mananshah15 (
talk) 16:17, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
- Simply appearing at the Paralympics isn't enough to show notability according to
WP:NSPORTS so appearing at a world championship is not enough. If he wins a medal, which is the requirement for the Paralympics, then I'll reconsider.
Mdtemp (
talk) 18:26, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
KeepHi I would beg To differ here. directly Pasting from WP:NSPORTS which says "Athletes from any sport are presumed notable if they have competed at the Summer or Winter Olympic games or have won a medal at the Paralympic Game" We are talking about para-athletes participating in World Championships. I did not find any Manual of Style guidelines for para-athletics International competitions other than Olympics. Mdtemp. Could you help me find something here? Mananshah15 ( talk) 07:15, 15 October 2014 (UTC)- I have struck your duplicate !vote above; only one is allowed. However, feel free to comment all you'd like. NorthAmerica 1000 20:27, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
- Simply appearing at the Paralympics isn't enough to show notability according to
WP:NSPORTS so appearing at a world championship is not enough. If he wins a medal, which is the requirement for the Paralympics, then I'll reconsider.
Mdtemp (
talk) 18:26, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
- KeepThe athelete will be competing in World Championships this month. The First Pointer of
WP:CRYSTALBALL says that person participating in near future important international competition event could make him notable. Vibhas Sen as per the press coverage says he will be participating in World Championship in third week of November '14. I believe he could be categorised as notable. Thoughts
Mdtemp?
Mananshah15 (
talk) 16:17, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
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- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica 1000 20:27, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
- Delete - The athlete has not competed in the Paralympic games and hence doesn't pass WP:NOLYMPICS. However, the failure to meet the criteria of WP:NOLYMPICS does not mean the article must be deleted. It simply means that notability will need to be established in other ways like WP:GNG. Unfortunately, I can't find any reliable and significant sources, except these - [1], [2]. Also, the athlete competing in the Wheelchair Fencing World Cup this year, does not establish notability. Although the article has potential, as for now, apparently it doesn't pass the guidelines. Harsh (talk) 22:31, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
- Delete I was scanning the list of new (last 2 weeks) martial arts articles when I found this. He doesn't seem to meet WP:NSPORTS or WP:GNG. Papaursa ( talk) 21:38, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORTS. I might reconsider if he medals at the world championships. 131.118.229.17 ( talk) 20:35, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
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