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The result was no consensus. North America 1000 01:37, 14 November 2017 (UTC) reply

Uchechukwu Deborah Ukeh

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Non-notable athletes. Fails WP:NSPORTS, no GNG sources presented and the only sources are results databases. Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 00:29, 6 November 2017 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 02:35, 6 November 2017 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 02:35, 6 November 2017 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 02:35, 6 November 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per WP:NBADMINTON. Stvbastian ( talk) 06:25, 6 November 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Delete because she didn't meet WP:NBADMINTON. And analysis below; WP:NBADMINTON has 5 points: point 1– Participation at the Olympic Games, or World Championships; No, the subject only participated in "Open events" not "World Championship"; for their differences see Badminton World Federation. Point number 2 is closely tied to number 1 and also not met: reason; same rationale as no 1. Points number, 5, 4 and 3 are all awards, this subject has none, as per as my several search shows. Any objection is welcome. Overall the article is stub, searches yielded poor result as their is no significant coverage of the subject, thus fails WP:GNG  —  Ammarpad ( talk) 09:52, 12 November 2017 (UTC) reply
Article says subject was a medalist at All African Games. Darreg ( talk) 10:29, 12 November 2017 (UTC) reply
Bronze medalist not, Silver, not Gold. In addition, the guideline says "Likely to be notable". Even wining Gold is not automatic notability. With failing of all other criterion, 1 time third level bronze can't establish all notability.  —  Ammarpad ( talk) 11:06, 12 November 2017 (UTC) reply
This article meet #2 WP:NBADMINTON, she was the bronze medallist at the All African Games. All African Games is the continental championships. #3 WP:NBADMINTON, medalist at the Nigeria, Ivory Coast, and Benin International tournament. Nigeria, Ivory Coast, and Benin International same level with Slovak International which mentioned at the #3. Stvbastian ( talk) 14:51, 12 November 2017 (UTC) reply
Doesn't mean that the athlete is 100% notable automatically. They maybe, and in this case with the lack of GNG they are not. So my decision to Delete stands. Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 16:18, 12 November 2017 (UTC) reply
This is notable player and meet GNG. [1], [2], [3]. Stvbastian ( talk) 23:42, 12 November 2017 (UTC) reply
All three articles mention the athlete in passing, ie the article is not about them. Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 00:44, 13 November 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Comment @ Stvbastian: First meeting GNG is not guarantee for Wikipedia article; because GNG only "presume" not automate;

    From GNG: "Presumed" means that significant coverage in reliable sources creates an assumption, not a guarantee, that a subject should be included. A more in-depth discussion might conclude that the topic actually should not have a stand-alone article

    . Now let's see whether the sources you provided have the significant coverage to create an "assumption" of GNG first.
  • Analysis of @ Stvbastian:'s WP:GNG sources: First ref headline: "TEAM Nigeria bags 12 Gold" [4]. First this report focused about GOLD medalists, (the real winners) specifically, not Silver not Bronze. This reference is what is called "mere mention" in every sense. The title alone tells what the story is all about. You can also reread it, perhaps you read it in hurry.
  • Second ref headline: "Nigeria's Badminton TEAM wins Benin Republic International." [5] This is similar report as above talking about Nigerian Badminton TEAM not one bronze medalist, not even those who won Silver and Gold. Reading the actual story will explain I only understate here.
  • Third ref headline: "National Badminton Champions Get One Year Sponsorship from Chinese Company" [6]. Story about sponsorship granted to the national champions collectively also. All these news reports there is none that dedicate full paragraph to tell us who is Uchechukwu Deborah Ukeh and what she is up to. This subject fails WP:GNG entirely, fails WP:NBADMINTON 80– 90% therefore didn't meet Wikipedia criteria for inclusion, perhaps later in future but now she doesn't  —  Ammarpad ( talk) 12:49, 13 November 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per WP:NBADMINTON #3, as she has won a medal at several international tournaments which are the highest one in their country. If you don't like the criteria, this isn't the place to discuss it. She passes them. Smartyllama ( talk) 10:46, 13 November 2017 (UTC) reply
  • First let me remind you of something. She won 1 bronze (3rd medal) once in 2015. Your claim of several medals is unsourced. Second. Quoting WP:NBADMINTON:

    Athletes in Badminton are likely to be notable if they meet any of the criteria below

    . This means even those who participate in the grand BWF World Championships and won gold and silver are not given automatic notability because of this talkless of one time 3rd level bronze winner. WP:GNG is the basic and general inclusion criterion. It states

    If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list.

    It further explains what is significant coverage; Significant coverage addresses the topic directly and in detail so that no original research is needed to extract the content. This subject fails this WP:GNG entirely, no significant coverage only mention of winning among hundreds of winners and it is only this GNG that can complement the likely notability of WP:NBADMINTON #3.  —  Ammarpad ( talk) 11:46, 13 November 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per Smartyllama.She passes WP:NBADMINTON #3. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 11:47, 13 November 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Comment GNG has higher precedence than WP:NBadminton, and in this case the article fails GNG and therefore should be deleted. Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 13:29, 13 November 2017 (UTC) reply
    • You created this AfD. You don't get a second vote. Smartyllama ( talk) 18:53, 13 November 2017 (UTC) reply
      • This isn't a second vote though. I put comment at the very beginning, something you conveniently glossed over in writing that comment. Please use your time constructively to build the encyclopedia instead of falsely throwing out accusations and editing disruptively. Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 20:07, 13 November 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, RfCs have consistently affirmed that GNG takes precedence over SNGs. Even disregarding that, her claim to notability via NBADMINTON is dubious at best given that she has only won a single bronze medal in a notable competition. ♠ PMC(talk) 17:37, 13 November 2017 (UTC) reply
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