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The result was keep. The Bushranger _{One ping only} 05:57, 22 December 2015 (UTC) reply

Thomas Nisbett

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This was previously nominated for deletion on notability and WP:V grounds. The citations included are either broken, or do not support any of the claims that would arguably make this person notable. There's no support whatsoever for the assertion that he was awarded an OBE, which is the type of thing that should be easily verifiable. JCO312 ( talk) 16:08, 7 December 2015 (UTC) reply

• Keep. It is easily verifiable by searching the London Gazette. Where else did you expect to find it other than the official record of such things? While an OBE does not provide inherent notability, I think that if he was also the first black Anglican priest in Bermuda he's probably sufficiently notable. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 16:44, 7 December 2015 (UTC) reply

That's the problem though, when you search the London Gazette there is no record of an OBE. JCO312 ( talk) 16:55, 7 December 2015 (UTC) reply

I take it back, just saw your reference. For whatever reason when I plugged the search term in I didn't find that. JCO312 ( talk) 17:01, 7 December 2015 (UTC) reply

Always best to think around the subject when searching the LG, whose search engine isn't always 100% reliable. I searched for "Norman Nisbett" instead of his full name and got it first time. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 17:07, 7 December 2015 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp ( talk) 16:48, 7 December 2015 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp ( talk) 16:48, 7 December 2015 (UTC) reply

• Weak keep -- On first reading, I thought he was a NN clergyman. Getting an OBE is not necessarily sufficient to make a person WP-notable though those awarding it clearly thought him notable: you do not get an award for nothing. When I read it again and realised that he was the first Black Anglican priest in his country, I thought again. Peterkingiron ( talk) 18:26, 7 December 2015 (UTC) reply
• Comment. Little article change since the last afd ended keep. I read the first afd but didn't vote that time, same now, no vote from me and it'll end keep most likely. Weak refs but the OBE and first black clergyman etc most likely mean something... Szzuk ( talk) 21:01, 13 December 2015 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 21:50, 14 December 2015 (UTC) reply

• Keep Here are some sources about the subject:
  1. Arandjelovic, Nadia (2012-11-15). "'This is where you belong'". The Royal Gazette. Archived from the original on 2015-12-22. Retrieved 2015-12-22.

     The article notes:

     Canon Thomas Nisbett would certainly be welcomed with open arms into the local Anglican clergy these days, but 50 years ago was a completely different story.

     In 1962, having finished his theology studies at Codrington College in Barbados, he couldn’t find anyone to sponsor his ordination.

     His mentor Bishop Anthony Williams, who encouraged him to go to school, resigned without giving Canon Nisbett the consent necessary to be ordained into the church.

     ...

     But in a stroke of divine intervention, the Bishop of Barbados Lewis Evans went out on a limb to sponsor him in exchange for two years of work in the Caribbean country.

     Canon Nisbett went on to make Bermuda history by becoming the Island’s first black Anglican rector and serving as chaplain to Governor Edwin Leather.

  2. Westhead, Sara (2012-11-10). "Diocese launches Canon Nisbett lecture series". The Royal Gazette. Archived from the original on 2015-12-22. Retrieved 2015-12-22.

     The article notes:

     As a part of his duties, the Bishop will also inaugurate a lecture series to honour the lifelong work and achievements of Canon Thomas Nisbett in a special service at the Cathedral on Saturday, November 17 at 3pm. During the message in that service, the Bishop is expected to expound on the Bible and its place in Anglican Theology.

     “The lecture series is in honour of Canon Thomas and Winifred Nisbett,” Rev Nick Dill, priest in charge for the Anglican parish of Pembroke. “Canon Nisbett has the honour of being the first black Anglican clergy, the first black canon and the first black rector. He has broken through a number of the various barriers with tremendous grace, seeking matters of faith rather than matters of politics, and helped temper others who have a slightly different way about them.”

  3. "Profile of Cannon Thomas Nisbett". Anglican Church of Bermuda. Archived from the original on 2007-10-07. Retrieved 2007-10-07.
  4. "O.B.E." The London Gazette. 1991-12-30. Retrieved 2015-12-22.

     The source notes:

     O.B.E.

     To be Ordinary Officers of the Civil Division of the said Most Excellent Order

     The Reverend Canon Thomas Norman NISBETT. For services to the community in Bermuda.

  Cunard ( talk) 05:23, 22 December 2015 (UTC) reply

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