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The result was keep. MBisanz talk 18:26, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Textual variants in the First Epistle of John
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Most of the article is a copy-paste from
https://www.stepbible.org/?q=version=VarApp%7Creference=1Jo.1 and
https://www.stepbible.org/?q=version=VarApp%7Creference=1John.4&options=GNHVU, e.g. ἡμῶν] (our) – א, B, L, Ψ, 049, 69, 88, 181, 322, 326, 436, 1067, 1175, 1241, 1409, pm, Lect, itar, itp, itt(pt),, itz, vgww, vgst, copsa, geo, Ps-Oecumeniuscomm, Theophylactcomm, TRStephens 1550, WH
is on STEP Bible ἡμῶν] א B L Ψ 049 69 88 181 322 326 436 1067 1175 1241 1409 pm Lect itar itp itt(pt) itz vgww vgst copsa geo Ps-Oecumeniuscomm Theophylactcomm ςStephanus WH NRtext CEI Rivtext TILC Nv NM
. I do not think we should have a WP article which duplicates another website. And before one may argue that the page is to be kept because it is an important topic, I will say that almost no one works on Christianity related topics on WP so the hope of seeing the radical improvements needed are null. I add that there is already a section
Textual_variants_in_the_New_Testament#First_Epistle_of_John, and I note that it has the exact same problem for it has the exact same text.
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talk) 13:32, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Religion-related deletion discussions. Veverve ( talk) 13:32, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 13:36, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bible-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 14:51, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Textual_variants_in_the_New_Testament#First_Epistle_of_John per nom. Not seeing a reason for a stand alone article. Eddie891 Talk Work 18:27, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - this article is created as a sub-article of Textual_variants_in_the_New_Testament, to reduce the size of the main article. It would also make easier for adding materials only related to variants in 1 John. The links in the article are unique for Wikipedia, so it does not just duplicate another source. There are works being done in Christianity and Bible-related topics, but because of the large scopes, some articles may receive scarce attention. JohnThorne ( talk) 21:59, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- Keep -- We have recently had a discussion on Textual variants in the New Testament and a related article, tackling the subject in a different way. I think that on the whole this is a subject best tackled one book at a time, or in small groups (perhaps the 3 epistles of John together. Thus splitting that article is a worthwhile endeavour. It is desirable that minor differences in spellings are ignored unless they make a significant difference to the meaning, but the difference between our and your would not be merely minor. I might have liked to see some discussion of how much difference some of the variant readings make to the meaning. Peterkingiron ( talk) 17:56, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
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