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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 23:05, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Teresa (Barbie)
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Non-notable children's toy and fictional character. Article does not establish notability. Of the seven references present on the article at the moment:
- Ref 1 is a YouTube video on a fan channel, probably a copyright violation, and is a primary source (it's a release trailer)
- Refs 2 and 3 are primarily about other characters
- Ref 4 is a picture of Barbie merchandise (primary source) hosted on Flickr
- Refs 5, 6 and 7 are primary (barbie.com)
In my opinion, the article's prose makes no attempt to establish the notability of this character, and the references provided do not establish notability either. Adam Black t • c 23:55, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Toys-related deletion discussions. Adam Black t • c 23:55, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:04, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - The sources included in the article are all pretty much not valid for establishing notability, being primary or unreliable sources. But, searches are actually bringing up some commentary on the character, particularly on the depictions of her ethnicity. While a lot of it is fairly brief, this book has a whole page on the topic, and is the best I've found. If not kept, it should at least be redirected to List of Barbie's friends and family#Female best friends, and have some sources actually added there. Rorshacma ( talk) 00:49, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - The sources found after my initial comment in addition to the one I already mentioned above seem to push Teresa into passing the WP:GNG. The article should be updated to replace the primary sourced "plot" content with the sourced analysis, but it does not appear that Deletion would be appropriate here. Rorshacma ( talk) 01:33, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Barbie's friends and family#Female best friends, most non-notable characters get redirected, which is optimal for this one as well. - Samoht27 ( talk) 18:58, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep -
Rorshacma provided a good book reference, and there is plenty more:
- Another book gives about 2.5 pages to Teresa here in Barbie Culture by Mary F. Rogers.
- Sloan gives some discussion of her creation, lack of good marketing, and devolution to just another Barbie in Women's Roles in Latin America and the Carribbean, which was cited by Taber, Clover, and Sanford in "Performing gender in a Barbie Expo: White passivity, exotic otherness, and tradition in a fashionista bow".
- Goldman also discusses the poor marketing and whitening of her in "La Princesa Plástica: Hegemonic and Oppositional Representations of Latinidad in Hispanic Barbie" (from the book From Bananas to Buttocks: The Latina Body in Popular Film and Culture, and then goes on to liken Teresa to Argentina and Barbie to the United States as they are depicted in a short film using the dolls as characters.
- Aguiló-Pérez also discusses Teresa in "Accessing Barbie Conversations about Class and Race", chapter four of An American Icon in Puerto Rico: Barbie, Girlhood, and Colonialism at Play identifying her as a common favorite amongst those that played with her and identified with her darker hair and skin, but also criticizing her relegation to the sidelines as Barbie is spotlighted in both animated releases and marketing commercials.
- The above doi links are all accessible via the WP:Library access. All that said, enough sources WP:NEXIST to establish her notability. The article can obviously be improved to incorporate some of this, but it does not need deletion. - 2pou ( talk) 22:36, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: I am convinced by the sources found by Rorshacma (at least a page of The Marketing of Toys) and 2pou (several pages in Barbie Culture). Barbie is important; people write about it. Toughpigs ( talk) 23:00, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
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