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The result was delete. I am not persuaded by the keep votes. Winning awards confers notability when there is coverage of the award. For example, winning an Oscar generates coverage for the winner, winning the Palme d'Or generates coverage, etc etc. But if there is no coverage, there is no notability; in this case I don't see evidence of significant independent coverage about the actor/movie winning the award. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 20:30, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Teerpu
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Fails WP:NFILM, and lacks sources. I searched, but couldn't find. Kailash29792 (talk) 10:34, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 10:38, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 10:38, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
*Delete Fails
WP:NFILM
Donaldd23 (
talk) 14:40, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
- Changing vote to Keep based on the fact that Kota Srinivasa Rao won an award for this film. Donaldd23 ( talk) 15:00, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete This unsourced article has existed over 6 years. It should not have lasted more than 6 days. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 18:00, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Kolma8 ( talk) 18:37, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete, can't find anything to show it passes WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 03:31, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per #3 of WP:NFO. The film received state-presented Nandi Award for Best Villain ( p. 37). Please reconsider. -- Ab207 ( talk) 19:02, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Originally closed as delete. User asked for relist so consideration as to whether the award it won establishes notability.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 ( talk) 15:52, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Originally closed as delete. User asked for relist so consideration as to whether the award it won establishes notability.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 ( talk) 15:52, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Inclined to delete but can the 'keep' comment please be addressed in the context of the policy? Thanks.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 14:17, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Inclined to delete but can the 'keep' comment please be addressed in the context of the policy? Thanks.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 14:17, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
- Comment
WP:NFO says
"The film has received a major award for excellence in some aspect of filmmaking."
Nandi Awards presented by the Government of Andhra Pradesh is considered the highest award ceremony of Telugu cinema, therefore it meets the standard established by NFO. Pinging participants who may have missed, @ Kailash29792, Donaldd23, Johnpacklambert, Kolma8, and Onel5969: -- Ab207 ( talk) 05:49, 21 January 2021 (UTC)-
Ab207, if you can find more sources in Telugu (type something like Teerpu 1994 or Teerpu ANR but in Telugu), I encourage you to add them. Would
this be acceptable for songs?
Kailash29792
(talk) 05:54, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
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Kailash29792, since Teerpu means judgement, results are overrun by the articles of the landmark case of
S. R. Bommai v. Union of India and 1994 Ismail Faruqui judgement. I'll try to add more sources that I can find. --
Ab207 (
talk) 06:44, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- Comment - the film received zero awards. An actor in the film received the award.
Onel5969
TT me 11:39, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- The award is won for a role in this particular film. That's we have films winning an award in any category listed at
List of Academy Award-winning films, not just the Best Picture. --
Ab207 (
talk) 13:49, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- @
Ab207: Thanks for bringing this interesting point. I am reading at
Filmmaking: "Filmmaking involves a number of complex and discrete stages including an initial story, idea, or commission, through screenwriting, casting, shooting, sound recording and pre-production, editing, and screening the finished product before an audience that may result in a film release and an exhibition." MW says that filmmaking is "the making of motion pictures." I am not sure about this one yet I see your point too. It will be interesting to read opinions of others here.
Kolma8 (
talk) 20:55, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- Acting is an indispensable part of filmmaking. In Ben-hur's record of 11 Academy Award wins, no distinction is made between acting/non-acting categories. -- Ab207 ( talk) 05:08, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
- @
Ab207: Thanks for bringing this interesting point. I am reading at
Filmmaking: "Filmmaking involves a number of complex and discrete stages including an initial story, idea, or commission, through screenwriting, casting, shooting, sound recording and pre-production, editing, and screening the finished product before an audience that may result in a film release and an exhibition." MW says that filmmaking is "the making of motion pictures." I am not sure about this one yet I see your point too. It will be interesting to read opinions of others here.
Kolma8 (
talk) 20:55, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- The award is won for a role in this particular film. That's we have films winning an award in any category listed at
List of Academy Award-winning films, not just the Best Picture. --
Ab207 (
talk) 13:49, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- Comment - the film received zero awards. An actor in the film received the award.
Onel5969
TT me 11:39, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
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Kailash29792, since Teerpu means judgement, results are overrun by the articles of the landmark case of
S. R. Bommai v. Union of India and 1994 Ismail Faruqui judgement. I'll try to add more sources that I can find. --
Ab207 (
talk) 06:44, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
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Ab207, if you can find more sources in Telugu (type something like Teerpu 1994 or Teerpu ANR but in Telugu), I encourage you to add them. Would
this be acceptable for songs?
Kailash29792
(talk) 05:54, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- Actors, much like directors, cinematographers, composers, editors etc. take part in filmmaking. Each perform their pre-determined role like cog in a wheel to make a film. There are no awards for Best pre-production, Best principal photography etc, rather its the people who are awarded for their work in a film. -- Ab207 ( talk) 05:34, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
- It could be, but while talking, for instance, about the most respected awards, the Oscars... "...the Oscars are awards for artistic and technical merit in the film industry," which is reflected in Academy_Awards#Current_categories. Again, would like to see how others will weight on the matter. Thanks, Kolma8 ( talk) 08:33, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - the film itself has not won any awards and has not received significant coverage in independent reliable sources - does not meet WP:NFOE or WP:NFP - cheers, Epinoia ( talk) 02:01, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
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