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The result was keep. Tone 12:12, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
Suzi Weiss-Fischmann
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Major notability concerns. Sources about the subject seem to fail requirements for NBIO/GNG, they are either in passing, rewritten press-releases, or WP:INTERVIEWS. I am not seeing anything that's both in-depth and reliable. A merge has been suggested in an edit summary by editor who removed the PROD but with no specific article. We don't usually merge biographies into other pages, so I don't see a good target. OPI Products would not be a valid target, as we don't generally preserve employees bios in company's articles. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:00, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
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WP:POINTy AfD after a PROD was shot down. There are alternatives possible, like a merge with the company. But there are also in-depth sources available, that a proper WP:BEFORE could have unearthed, like
this one.
The Banner
talk 15:04, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- And Wikipedia:Interviews is just an essay, not a rule carved in stone. The Banner talk 15:06, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- Keep: The article already has these sources:
- " This Jewish mom is the mastermind behind OPI nail polish" by Arielle Kaplan, Times of Israel (April 23, 2019)
- " Suzi Weiss-Fischmann: My First Big Travel Splurge" by Debbi Kickham, Forbes (Nov 29, 2018)
- I've also found these:
- " Meet the Hungarian Jewish woman behind the world’s largest luxury nail brand" by Alex Gabinski, Jewish News (Aug 29, 2019)
- " Suzi Weiss Fischmann Sees Tie-Dyed Nails in Our Future" by Jane Larkworthy, New York Magazine (April 19, 2019)
- " Local Color" by Kate M. Jackson, Boston Globe (Aug 4, 2005)
- She's the CEO of a company, so obviously the articles are about her business, and they're interviews, because that's how you write articles about CEOs. Times of Israel, Forbes, Jewish News, New York Magazine and Boston Globe are reliable sources. I'll add these three to the article in a Further reading section so that people who want to improve the article can use them as sources. --
Toughpigs (
talk) 20:55, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for finding more sources, but they are still low quality. Almost all are interviews in low outlets. Sure, WP:INTERVIEW is "just an essay", but the point is not a single source here seems to be a very good much for the GNG (not an essay...) requirement of in-depth coverage in reliable sources. What coverage there is beyond interviews is focused on her company, not on herself. Her life has not been subject to any in-depth treatment outside, arguably, interviews. It's borderline. I've seen worse bios, but I've seen plenty, IMHO, similar, deleted, as at best WP:TOOSOON. Well, let's see what others think. Notable bio, or vanity piece? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:11, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- Weak Keep in the business/fashion press for multiple years, coverage in Forward
[1], New York Times
[2], Reuters,
[3] Los Angeles Times.
[4] Per BASIC -
If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability...
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References
- ^ Singer, Jenny (10 April 2019). "Did You Know That Nail Polish Titan OPI Is The Brainchild Of A Jewish Mom?". The Forward.
- ^ Warren, Tamara (18 April 2014). "A Mustang Option: Matching Nail Polish". The New York Times.
- ^ "Life lessons from the 'first lady of nails'". Reuters. 9 March 2017.
- ^ "Colorful service". Los Angeles Times. 5 April 2009.
-- Goldsztajn ( talk) 21:16, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- Forward piece is mostly about her company, not her. Sane for the LA Times. NYTimes piece mentions her in passing and is not in-depth. Reuters piece is a WP:INTERVIEW. Sorry, those are weak sources. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:30, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per available sources and WP:NEXIST. gidonb ( talk) 13:56, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
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- Keep I've added a few more sources. Passes GNG. Megalibrarygirl ( talk) 16:39, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
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