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Delete i didn't see any reliable source (neither primary nor secondary) for stating that this character even exist. i thinks it's fake and motivation of this action was a kind of feminist or "female epic" for bolding of present of women in persia's history. --
Dandamayev (
talk) 16:25, 26 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete. I believe this is a hoax. I'll note that calling her a Parthian hero, when the Parthians gave way to
Sasanian Empire when she was supposedly 11 years old sounds unlikely. There was a battle at Sura between Romans and Parthians some years earlier -
[1],
[2],
[3]. Finally, I would like to extend my apologies, on behalf of the community as a whole, to
this womanwho changed her name to Sura (possibly (OR) found from the Wikipedia article or a Wikipedia clone?) - it would seem that hoax articles have real world consequences.
Icewhiz (
talk) 08:11, 27 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete as failing
WP:V. A daughter of
Artabanus V does play a role in the invasion by Rome as the refusal to to marry her to
Caracalla was used as a pretext for war,
[4] but I am not finding this name or the description of any daughter as playing a military role in reliable sources.
24.151.116.12 (
talk) 16:04, 27 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete as a hoax. Kudos to Galobtter for spotting this.
E.M.Gregory (
talk) 17:43, 27 April 2018 (UTC)reply
DElete unless it is provided with RS references. The article purports to link her to two kings, but neither article names her, nor are women notable as participants in this period. The whole thing lacks credibility. I suspect this a hoax perpetrated by Jade Sura, as Icewhiz hints; of course I have no proof and may be wrong.
Peterkingiron (
talk) 16:25, 29 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Regarding Jade Sura thing, I don't think that is what Icewhiz is saying. Far more likely she just found it on wikipedia.
Galobtter (
pingó mió) 16:28, 29 April 2018 (UTC)reply
This article dates back to 2012. If I understand Jade's site correctly she posted there in 2018(which seems confirmed by the wider internet footprint of "jade sura"). Hoax articles would seem to have real world consequences - this is on us.
Icewhiz (
talk) 17:43, 29 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Yeah, the 5th most visited website does have massive consequences. Sometimes they can be bad too :( (though Sura isn't a bad name, I suppose..)
Galobtter (
pingó mió) 17:56, 29 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete as hoax.
Srnec (
talk) 19:57, 29 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete - Blatant Hoax. It's astonishing how so poorly cited an article has spread so quickly: a highly qualified academic has been fooled on the matter. [1] Assuming deletion is the decision, it should be moved to the list of hoaxes.
FirefoxLSD (
talk) 11:45, 3 May 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete - fails WP:V and I agree that it seems to be a hoax.
Smmurphy(
Talk) 22:05, 3 May 2018 (UTC)reply
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