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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) NemesisAT ( talk) 09:56, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
Sivanath Sastri
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We are told the subject was a Bengali social reformer, writer, translator, scholar, editor philosopher and historian, but not one single shred of evidence for any notability in any of these roles is presented here. Once the persistent coyvios were removed, this deleted, PRODed article has no merit. Fails WP:GNG. Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 14:43, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, India, and West Bengal. Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 14:43, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. The article that was deleted was deleted through the
copyright investigation process, not because of any lack of merit of the article, and the prod was invalid. Notability of this person has never been previously discussed. The deleted article had references, so imo a better way forward would have been to stub it and retain the references for a future editor to use. In the current article, there were also references, but these were demoted from general references to external links
without any justification. Despite our complete hangup here for an inline cite for every word, general references per
WP:GENREF still remain a valid method for verifiying article content.
So in short this article has been very unfairly treated. This might have a lot to do with many of the sources provided not being in English and difficult to assess. But sources in English do exist. There is a book biography, and his work is repeatedly discussed in The Brahmo Samaj and the Shaping of the Modern Indian Mind. On page 26 of that book the author says "The spiritual leader of the revolt against Keshub Sen in 1878 was Sivanath Sastri..." which imo makes him an historically important figure if that was all he ever did, but clearly, he was notable for much more than that. Spinning Spark 11:31, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:49, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Strong Keep: A simple Google search reveals that he indeed was a notable reformer, so much so that a college Sivanath Sastri College affiliated to University of Calcutta is named after him. See this and this. I am not learnt in Bengali, but I am sure other editors will find enough WP:RS to expand this article. User4edits ( talk) 00:45, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep.As above, no doubt more Bengali language sources would support. Deathlibrarian ( talk) 10:21, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. Added a reference, from his entry in Banglapedia, the national encyclopedia of Bangladesh. -- Dwaipayan ( talk) 22:47, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
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