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Not notable person. Being rich != notability. Few sources other than ones that mention her position and wealth. Vermont |
reply here 00:15, 22 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment : Including this information here as I included it when Vermont tagged initially tagged it for speedy delete —
Reasons why I believe individual is notable, and therefore should not be deleted:
Only member of the Irving family on the C-Suite of
Irving Oil — likely to succeed ownership of the company,
Heir to the Irving fortune (net worth of $15.5 billion USD — 2nd richest family in Canada, daughter to 233rd richest person in the world)
I think this person is relevant enough to justify an article. I will say though that this is only because of her C-Suite position in Irving Oil and the media coverage related to it. The 21st most powerful listing is tangential since that is only one of many different lists of the most powerful women, Canadians and business people, however there is no doubt that in this instance, (money = notability) is a true equation. And I think it is always so to some extent, I challenge you to find a biography of someone that had no money here, there are very very few.
Prince of Thieves (
talk) 22:00, 22 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Very reluctant keep, Vermont asked for my opinion One of the few cases I think we ought to bend
WP:GNG: She's not (yet) notable in her own right, but if, say, you're googling around looking for information on the future of Irving Oil (not infeasible) this article would probably be pretty useful to you, and so IMO it should stick around. -- Thanks,
Alfie. talk to me |
contribs 23:22, 22 February 2018 (UTC)reply
little note: I asked on IRC for alfie's thoughts. I did not ask alfie to comment here, per
WP:CANVASSING. Vermont |
reply here 23:24, 22 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Drop me right in it, why don't you ;) but yes this is true, I just decided to put my thoughts here becuase they're useful maybe -- Thanks,
Alfie. talk to me |
contribs 23:26, 22 February 2018 (UTC) reply
Delete, without prejudice against recreation if and when she does succeed to the head of the company. We don't hold
WP:GNG in abeyance just because there's a possibility that a stronger claim of notability might emerge in the future, per
WP:NOTCRYSTAL — we wait until a stronger notability claim has emerged, and then create the article accordingly.
Bearcat (
talk) 21:25, 23 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, J04n(
talk page) 16:07, 2 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep The nomination doesn't seem to make much sense as it discounts the sources which explain her significance. And where's the consideration of
alternatives to deletion? Our
editing policy applies.
Andrew D. (
talk) 19:10, 2 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep (withdraw) I'm withdrawing my nomination of this article. When I nom'd it, it was a short, 1-source article that didn't return much on the google search I did. It's now much more populated with information, and although it's notability can be contested, I think it should be kept. Vermont |
reply here 22:29, 2 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep I'm not sure what the article looked like at nomination, but the current sourcing of the article passes
WP:GNG and establishes notability.
Lonehexagon (
talk) 21:56, 4 March 2018 (UTC)reply
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