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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) GeoffreyT2000 ( talk) 02:39, 8 September 2016 (UTC) reply

Robert Niter

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This bodybuilder has won a competition ( Musclemania) whose notability is itself in question and performed CPR on a person. That doesn't seem to satisfy WP:BIO or WP:GNG. The article's creator and only significant editor is the SPA User:Rniterjr. Clarityfiend ( talk) 01:49, 31 August 2016 (UTC) reply

  • Keep In reviewing this bodybuilder's references and links, their may've been some oversight as the nominator for deletion states, "this bodybuilder has won a competition."--meaning 1 competition. Upon careful review, the references cite a plethora amount of reliable sources to support the bodybuilder's claim; specifically, winning multiple championships. In addition, the bodybuilder has won the competitions to such a degree that he has earned professional cards at some of the highest levels. In light of Musclemania's notability, the brand appears to be global at various continents upon reviewing the website www.musclemania.com/event-schedule. It was discovered that the bodybuilder was listed as an athlete on the cover. However, the article's creator should reference additional sources to strengthen notability. In review of the Facebook Page of the bodybuilder, it was discovered that the page has been verified by Facebook and reads, "Facebook confirmed this is an authentic page for this public figure, media or brand." According to Wikipedia, "Celebrity is fame and public attention in the media, usually applied to a person, group of people (celebrity couple, family, etc.), or, occasionally, to animals. Celebrity status is often associated with wealth (commonly referred to as fame and fortune) and fame can often provide opportunities to make money. Although the term is often intended to refer to famous individuals, it is commonly used to refer to anyone who has had any moderate public attention in media, regardless of how well-known they are beyond their niche." This verifies the bodybuilder has some sort of public attention to earn a verified badge. In addition, performing CPR on an individual does not warrant significance. However, saving a life through the performance of CPR is certainly commendable. The article's creator must continue building this page. In its current standing, I recommend more contributions to the page over deletion. 81.215.4.199 ( talk) 21:45, 31 August 2016 (UTC) reply


This page should not be deleted because the topic of this article is "worthy of notice" according to Wikipedia:Notability (people). Specifically, the bodybuilder has received significant coverage in multiple published and secondary sources that are reliable and independent of the subject. The bodybuilder's article clearly aligns with Sports personalities (see Wikipedia:Notability (sports)). An athlete is presumed to be notable if the person has actively participated in a major amateur or professional competition or won a significant honor and so is likely to have received significant coverage in reliable or secondary sources that are independent of the subject. This athlete also appears to be verified by Facebook as an authentic public figure or brand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rniterjr ( talkcontribs) 20:10, 2 September 2016 (UTC) reply

  • Keep I agree that the article should not be deleted, though it has room for improvement. The competition that the athlete has competed in is notable enough to have its own Wikipedia page to begin with. The athlete is also a decorated veteran who was well known for training hundreds of his peers. He also meets the criteria for notability. WikiGuy1980 ( talk) 20:41, 2 September 2016 (UTC) reply
The athlete is also sponsored by a well known brand, which also has its own Wikipedia page. WikiGuy1980 ( talk) 20:42, 2 September 2016 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 11:11, 4 September 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Keep I have read the article. The article presents very reliable sources *note (official military web address). The review of his articles encompassed with his fan page strongly demonstrates he is a verified and active public figure. The article doesn't seem to contain any biased information that violates the criterion for biographies on living people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.3.17.79 ( talk) 14:18, 6 September 2016 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.