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The result was keep. kingboyk ( talk) 00:57, 31 July 2019 (UTC) reply

Robert Maximilian de Gaynesford

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I am unsure of this person's notability, a cursory Google search brings up nothing, and all I the books I can find on Google Books is a few books where he's credited as a author, and some books that are just copies from Wikipedia. TheAwesome Hwyh 02:16, 24 July 2019 (UTC) reply

It should also be noted that a major contributor to this article, @ Phenomenologuy: seems to be Gaynesford himself. TheAwesome Hwyh 02:20, 24 July 2019 (UTC) reply
Here is the relevant COI noticeboard discussion. TheAwesome Hwyh 02:48, 24 July 2019 (UTC) reply
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  • Comment. Note that if his chair is an established one instead of a personal one then he qualifies under WP:NACADEMIC #5. However, I can't determine whether it is or not. If kept, the article should be renamed Maximilian de Gaynesford, which appears to be his common name. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 10:21, 24 July 2019 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. IntoThinAir ( talk) 14:19, 24 July 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Keep despite PEACOCK nature of page, book reviews on JSTOR establish notabliity. Some with, some without middle name. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 16:11, 24 July 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per WP:AUTHOR and per E.M.Gregory. — David Eppstein ( talk) 21:51, 24 July 2019 (UTC) reply
  • It is tricky to figure out how the Wikipedia:privacy policy and Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons policy should be applied here. There is an exemption in the former for this, but this is such an extreme outlier of a case that I think that an argument can be made for removal of the article and the edit history in the interests of the spirit of the privacy policy, even if the letter allows it. Uncle G ( talk) 00:00, 25 July 2019 (UTC) reply
    • Comment ​ I am not sure what you mean in regards to the articles you have linked. Do you think that you could elaborate further? TheAwesome Hwyh 01:46, 25 July 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Comment I am the person referred to in this article, which was created without my knowledge by someone unknown to me in or before 2005. Whether the original decision to include an article about me was correct, I happily leave to others. But if it helps make that decision, I can testify that the information in the body of the article is factually correct - I have checked and corrected it regularly over the years. The name itself, however, ("Robert Maximilian de Gaynesford") is misleading - I am known and publish as 'Maximilian de Gaynesford' - so if Wikipedia continues to keep an article about me, I would ask that this correction be made. Please feel free to contact me if I can be of help. Phenomenologuy ( talk) 13:53, 25 July 2019 (UTC) reply
    comment moved to bottom by — Kusma ( t· c) 14:18, 25 July 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Keep, notable academic, and move to the more widely used Maximilian de Gaynesford when this AfD closes. — Kusma ( t· c) 14:21, 25 July 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Comment If this article is retained, this selection of the most notable academic articles and reviews discussing the work of its subject by others in the field could be included:
Here follows a pretty impressive list of academic reviews and other material. Drmies ( talk)
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Reviews of de Gaynesford John McDowell (2004)

  • by Alexander Baggatini and Marcus Willaschek in Philosophical Books Volume 47, Issue 3, July 2006, Pages 281-4 [1]
  • by Alexander Miller in Philosophical Quarterly Volume 55, Issue 221, 2005 Pages 667-9 [2]
  • by Arif Ahmed in Mind Volume 115, Issue 458, April 2006, Pages 403–409 [3]

Reviews of de Gaynesford Hilary Putnam (2006)

  • by George Engelbretson in History and Philosophy of Logic Volume 28, February 2007 Pages 101-2 [4]
  • by Robert C. Danisch in Metascience Volume 16, 2007 Pages 107–110 [5]

Reviews of de Gaynesford I: The Meaning of the First Person Term (2006)

  • by Stephen Williams in Times Literary Supplement April 2007 [6]
  • by Jose Luis Bermudez in Philosophical Review Volume 117, Number 4, November 2008, Pages 634-637 [7]
  • by Richard Vallée in Notre Dame Philosophical Reviews November 2006 [8]
  • by Maria Alvarez in Philosophical Quarterly Volume 58, Issue 231, April 2008, Pages 372–374 [9]
  • by Daniel Morgan in Dialectica Volume 61, Issue 4, 2007, Pages 583-7 [10]

Reviews of de Gaynesford The Rift In The Lute: Attuning Poetry and Philosophy (2017)

  • by Richard Eldridge in The British Journal of Aesthetics Volume 59, Issue 2, April 2019, Pages 236–239 [11]
  • by Lowell Gallagher in SEL Studies in English Literature 1500-1900 vol. 58 no. 1, 2018, pp. 219-277 [12]

Articles in response to de Gaynesford on Poetry

  • by Christopher Mole The Performative Limits of Poetry in The British Journal of Aesthetics Volume 53, Issue 1, January 2013, Pages 55–70 [13]

For biographical evidence on the subject, this data could be included:

  • Lincoln College Record 2001-2 reports de Gaynesford leaving Lincoln College Oxford in 2002 [14]
  • Leiter Reports: A Philosophical Blog reports de Gaynesford's move to the University of Reading from the College of William and Mary in 2006 [15]

References

  1. ^ "Baggatini and Willaschek".
  2. ^ "Miller".
  3. ^ "Ahmed".
  4. ^ "Engelbretson".
  5. ^ "Danisch".
  6. ^ "Williams".
  7. ^ "Bermudez".
  8. ^ "Vallee".
  9. ^ "Alvarez".
  10. ^ "Morgan".
  11. ^ "Eldridge".
  12. ^ "Gallagher".
  13. ^ "Mole".
  14. ^ "Lincoln Record" (PDF).
  15. ^ "Leiter Reports".
Phenomenologuy ( talk) 10:29, 26 July 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Notable by our standards: He's got four books out and they've received a decent number of academic reviews, so he passes PROF. Drmies ( talk) 15:44, 26 July 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Keep GS cites [1] low, but as expected for philosophy. Book reviews routine but pass WP:Prof#C1. Xxanthippe ( talk).
    • I am not sure that "routine" is really the right word. This is not pseudonymous reviewing from Amazon or similar, which would be routine. This is reviews by identifiable experts, some peers in the field. Richard Vallée is another philosophy professor, for just one example. Uncle G ( talk) 12:31, 28 July 2019 (UTC) reply
By "routine" I mean that academic books from reputable sources are routinely reviewed in the scholarly literature. There is nothing special about being reviewed in this way. Xxanthippe ( talk) 22:24, 28 July 2019 (UTC). reply
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