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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) ( t · c) buidhe 23:24, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
Ren Klyce
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Non-notable sound editor/mixer. While on paper it looks like he has multiple Oscar nominations, the vast majority of them aren't unambiguously for his work specifically, given that he's one of multiple names listed for the nominated film in question. BEFORE turns up a lot of copypasta'd churnalism and more nominations of the same nature as is presently cited in the article (String: "ren klyce"). — A little blue Bori v^_^v Takes a strong man to deny... 23:31, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 23:54, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 23:54, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:ANYBIO. He has been nominated for seven Oscars. And a quick WP:BEFORE found a ton of sources, several of which I've added to the article. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 08:58, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
- speedy keep as 7-time Oscar nominees are notable. Collaborative creative efforts are not discounted. DiamondRemley39 ( talk) 13:05, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
- Keep as notable for being nominated for multiple Oscars and for having significant coverage in multiple reliable sources like these below:
- SOUND DESIGNER AND UCSC ALUM, REN KLYCE, MAKES ALL THE RIGHT NOISES
- Do You Really Know What Sound Design Is? One Of The Best, Dragon Tattoo’s Ren Klyce Breaks It Down
- Exclusive Interview With Ren Klyce, Sound Designer of Fight Club and Where the Wild Things Are
- Sound designer Ren Klyce talks 'Girl With the Dragon Tattoo'
- Immersed in Movies: Ren Klyce Talks Sound and Subways for Fincher’s ‘The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo’
- Q&A With Ren Klyce, Sound Editor for "The Social Network"
- 'Star Wars' sound designers reveal the secret sounds used to bring BB-8, porgs to life in ABC News documentary
- Oscar-nommed Klyce flies below radar
- Thanks,
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ping me) 14:57, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
- To add on, a good way to search people's names is to include the name inside quotation marks and outside them, like "ren klyce" ren klyce (since one name or the other will be used more frequently in a result than the full name), and it helps to add a relevant keyword like sound to the query.
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ping me) 15:07, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
- In my experience a news piece doesn't use one-or-the-other without using the full name first, and appending "sound" in this instance wouldn't have much helped because the results I got with just the name were not pulling up hits for any other Ren Klyces. —
A little blue Bori
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Takes a strong man to deny... 18:08, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
- I think it can make a difference because using quotation marks means to search for that exact term. I think having the same term without quotation marks can allow for results where the last name is used multiple times throughout. Furthermore, adding "sound" means allowing for results related to sound work, either covered in general on a given website or covered in a specific piece. A quick comparison shows the more pertinent sources showing up on the first and second pages of Google.
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ping me) 20:52, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
- I don't use the general search results for BEFORE; I use the News search results as those are more likely to provide usable sources. —
A little blue Bori
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Takes a strong man to deny... 20:54, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
- Ah, I missed that distinction. I actually think Google News search has been insufficient for a long time for older results. Maybe a decade ago, it was actually really good at listing older news-related results, but I haven't found that to be the case since then. I use the general search results and eyeball the web domains for the ones I know are reliable, or ones that seem potentially reliable. Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 00:32, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
- I don't use the general search results for BEFORE; I use the News search results as those are more likely to provide usable sources. —
A little blue Bori
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Takes a strong man to deny... 20:54, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
- I think it can make a difference because using quotation marks means to search for that exact term. I think having the same term without quotation marks can allow for results where the last name is used multiple times throughout. Furthermore, adding "sound" means allowing for results related to sound work, either covered in general on a given website or covered in a specific piece. A quick comparison shows the more pertinent sources showing up on the first and second pages of Google.
Erik (
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ping me) 20:52, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
- In my experience a news piece doesn't use one-or-the-other without using the full name first, and appending "sound" in this instance wouldn't have much helped because the results I got with just the name were not pulling up hits for any other Ren Klyces. —
A little blue Bori
v^_^v
Takes a strong man to deny... 18:08, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
- To add on, a good way to search people's names is to include the name inside quotation marks and outside them, like "ren klyce" ren klyce (since one name or the other will be used more frequently in a result than the full name), and it helps to add a relevant keyword like sound to the query.
Erik (
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ping me) 15:07, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
- Keep as has significant coverage in multiple reliable sources identified in this discussion that show a pass of WP:GNG so that deletion is unnecessary imv Atlantic306 ( talk) 23:24, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
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