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The result was delete. Consensus is that the article does not meet the notability guideline. Davewild ( talk) 19:19, 23 June 2015 (UTC) reply

Ralph Cleland Tiffin

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Lacks reliable independent secondary sources to establish notability as required by WP:GNG and fails to state a reason the subject should be presumed notable in lieu of sources under WP:ANYBIO. Googling turned up nothing useful. Msnicki ( talk) 18:23, 16 June 2015 (UTC) reply

  • Deletefails GNG -- 19:38, 16 June 2015 (UTC) reply
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Keep - this page has been in existence for some time with absolutely no issues. Msnicki ( talk) I respectfully request that you remove this deletion notice. momononu — Preceding unsigned comment added by Momononu ( talkcontribs) 11:31, 17 June 2015 (UTC) reply

  • Comment: Would you like to set forth a rationale to Keep that's actually founded in appropriate policy? Nha Trang Allons! 16:00, 17 June 2015 (UTC) reply

Keep additional independent references added which hopefully resolve any concerns. Momononu ( talk)

  • Delete: So far, I'm seeing nothing. Yeah, there are links to abstracts of books he's written. Yeah, there are quotes from the subject (which explicitly don't qualify to support the notability of the subject). There's a dead link. There's a general book review blog with a four-sentence review of one his books. There's a press release bio, with text that's mirrored in the article. What there isn't -- and what the SPA advocating Keep hasn't provided -- are multiple, reliable, published third party sources which discuss the subject in significant detail, as the GNG requires. Nha Trang Allons! 15:59, 17 June 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Speaking as a descendant of Charlemagne, Cleopatra and Pocahontas, I want to point out that notability is not inherited. Also, the sourcing just isn't there, not on the page, and not when I search, with or without middle name. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 00:29, 18 June 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Actually, the supposed book link is instead a link to book chapter NOT written by him, nor is any other chapter in the book. I did find a handful of books in the British Library catalog. (Unlike in the US, the BL gets a "legal deposit" copy of every book published in the UK.) Here's one from 2014 [1]. The other books were published by Thorogood. Both seem to specialize in business books. However, a couple of professional books do not GNG make. I'm not finding notability here. LaMona ( talk) 02:17, 19 June 2015 (UTC) reply
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