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The result was no consensus with
no prejudice against speedy renomination. Consensus is difficult to determine here because of likely sockpuppetry, and too much of the commentary being focused on the nominator and/or commenters rather than whether or not this subject is
notable. A new discussion focusing on the subject's actual notability is likely to produce a clearer result.
SeraphimbladeTalk to me 01:36, 20 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Not corresponding WP:ANYBIO, spam links like forbes (contributor) or twocircles.net. Passing mentions in WSJ are not independent and not deep enough to counted as reliable independent sources. Obvious WP:Promo, WP:COI
多少 战场 龙 (
talk) 10:56, 26 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Keep - I removed a couple of social media links that were added after I created this. Two circles and Forbes contributor are weak, but are used to source fairly uncontroversial info. Other sourcing meets
WP:GNG. Nom looks like a sock. New account, short history of similar token edits, almost all reverted, then uses Twinkle to nominate this, citing multiple policies that would be unfamiliar to newcomers, including being familiar with the Forbes journalist versus Forbes contributor distinction. This and
Sprinklr have a history of being targeted by socks, although it has been quiet for a while. See
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Electiondata/Archive.
WP:NOTHERETimTempleton(talk)(cont) 16:51, 26 August 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete— Duplicate vote:多少 战场 龙 (
talk •
contribs) has already cast a vote above.
Comment as the topic didn't receive significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Let's read WP:ANYBIO:
1. Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material. - no such a link. Perhaps, Forbes
[1] is the only one worth mentioning in the article, however it tells us a lot about Sprinklr, and it doesn't allow to write an article about the living person.
2. Reliable" means that sources need editorial integrity to allow verifiable evaluation of notability, per the reliable source guideline. Sources may encompass published works in all forms and media, and in any language. Availability of secondary sources covering the subject is a good test for notability. The article is full of spam websites and blogs like:
[2] with 80k views per month, dmnews[3] with 11k views per month; chiefmarketer
[4] with 28k views per month, and so on. None of them is reliable. Interviews... I don't count them as they are not appropriate by default. --
多少 战场 龙 (
talk) 07:54, 1 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Weak keep - Per
WP:BASIC, which permits a combination of sources, there appears to be some support for his notability, e.g.
New York City Casts a Net to Catch the Next Big Start-Up (NYT, 2016, Thomas quoted as founder and CEO of Sprinklr, with context e.g. "His start-up has raised $125 million in venture funding and is valued at $1 billion"), in addition to a 2016
NYT interview. A 2016
Fortune article similarly frames the development of the company in biographical terms, e.g. "Sprinklr founder and CEO Ragy Thomas's quest to create a "command central"". A 2021
Reuters article includes, e.g. "Sprinklr, which began in 2009 in a spare bedroom in founder and Chief Executive Officer Ragy Thomas's house in New Jersey" and a 2021
Indian Express article includes, "customer experience management firm Sprinklr saw its shares rise 12 per cent, which also catapulted its founder — Kerala-born Ragy Thomas — into the billionaires club." Thomas has also been involved in a controversy related to Sprinklr in India, e.g. 2020
Business Standard, which also mentions, "Non-Resident Keralite Ragy Thomas founded the company and offered his service free, considering the health of his parents and other elderly people in the state." A 2020
News Minute explainer includes, "the US company was founded by tech executive Ragy Thomas, who hails from Kerala. He had worked for several years in the US prior to launching his own venture, Sprinklr". There are many promotional/press release/nonindependent sources to sort through (e.g. this
CNN interview notes "(CNN is also a Sprinklr client.)"), but from my view, there has been some independent coverage of Thomas, initially as the founder and CEO of Sprinklr, and then later during the controversy (which seems to clearly not be promotional) that is included in the
Sprinklr article.
Beccaynr (
talk) 16:11, 1 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Keep Bad-faith nomination by a suspicious account.
MrsSnoozyTurtle 22:40, 1 September 2022 (UTC)reply
@
MrsSnoozyTurtle I carefully read all the links provided in the article and found that the subject doesn't correspond WP:ANYBIO and maybe falls upon WP:COI. I don't see why this nomination is bad or suspicious.
多少 战场 龙 (
talk) 07:48, 2 September 2022 (UTC)reply
多少 战场 龙}, it is bad-faith because you seem to be targeting Timtempleton's articles and suspicious because of the sockpuppet behaviour. Regards,
MrsSnoozyTurtle 23:03, 3 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Please keep it civil, everyone. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (
投稿) 13:21, 3 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment on the fence about the quality of the sources, some are better than others. Leaning delete.
Oaktree b (
talk) 13:31, 3 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment - Way to feed the socks people. I’ll add some of the additional sources pointed out above when I get a chance.
TimTempleton(talk)(cont) 02:31, 4 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Great - another ip sock for the checkuser team to sort through.
TimTempleton(talk)(cont) 04:47, 5 September 2022 (UTC)reply
The checkuser team is going to have a drawer full of them :)
MrsSnoozyTurtle 08:51, 5 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment - I added some more sources, mostly interviews in business media. I'm fully expecting this brand new useraccount to start arguing that interviews aren't good sources, and I already have my response ready.
TimTempleton(talk)(cont) 20:54, 5 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Relisted to review sources added in [5] Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
DatGuyTalkContribs 15:21, 10 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Selective Merge and Redirect to
Sprinklr per
WP:NBUSINESSPERSON and
WP:ATD. Fails
WP:GNG and
WP:SIGCOV. All of the in depth coverage, while from quality publications like The New York Times and CNN, are interviews and therefore lack independence from the subject. No independent sources address the subject directly and in detail as required by our policies. There is just not enough here to indicate the subject is notable.
4meter4 (
talk) 01:24, 19 September 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment - Added independent
Inc. profile. with 30 minute video interview. From the text: As founder, chairman, and CEO of Sprinklr, Ragy Thomas has been instrumental in leading the firm from a seedling of an idea to a multibillion-dollar SaaS company. Now waiting for any vote strikers.
TimTempleton(talk)(cont) 00:30, 20 September 2022 (UTC)reply
That source is marked (in tiny letters at the end, after the black line) "Sponsored Business Content", and it is based on his statements without much
secondary context or commentary.
Beccaynr (
talk) 00:43, 20 September 2022 (UTC)reply
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