The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was redirect to
Popular Resistance Committees. I find the rationale for redirecting more strong relative to our policies & guidelines than keep, and more numerous in support.
Daniel (
talk) 07:16, 6 January 2024 (UTC)reply
There is no
WP:SIGCOV of him beyond the report of his death. I also tried searching for him on google before Oct 1, 2023, and found nothing on him. Given that sources only mention his death, I'd have proposed moving the page to
Killing of Rafat Abu Hilal, but even that would not meet
WP:GNG. VRtalk 21:38, 18 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep I was supportive of a similar deletion last week, but this individual was a leader of the major attack that initiated the current conflict.
Thief-River-Faller (
talk) 14:54, 20 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep. The supposed criteria that only coverage before death qualifies does not exist. There's ample and diverse well-cited
WP:SIGCOV of the article subject, the leader of the third largest Palestinian faction during the [[2023 Israel-Hamas war]. The individual's role was substantial, well-documented, widely-covered, and confirmed (including
by his movement.
Longhornsg (
talk) 00:45, 20 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep He has a prominent role in the history of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.--—
Osama Eid(
talk) 18:50, 21 November 2023 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Relisted following a contested "keep" closure per
Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2023 December 22. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 09:17, 30 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Redirect to
Popular Resistance Committees - Where he is already mentioned. The reports of his death are primary sources and do not demonstrate notability. Are there any secondary sources that discuss the signficance of this person? Longhornsg adds one source but this is just an obituary put out by the popular resistance movement. It lacks independence, and, in that form, is a primary source. It is also very brief and has nothing from which an encyclopaedic article could be written. Without some secondary surces describing why this person is significant, I would suggest an encyclopaedic treatment is not possible. All we have is that he was the head of PRC's armed wing and killed in an airstrike, and we have that on two pages. Unless significance beyond this can be shown, redirect is the appropriate
WP:ATD.
Sirfurboy🏄 (
talk) 09:44, 30 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Redirect per @
Sirfurboy Redirect to Popular Resistance Committees - I agree with @
SirfurboySirfurboy🏄's assessment.
The subject's mention in the context of the
Popular Resistance Committees, where he is already noted, seems sufficient given the current sources. The primary sources reporting his death do not establish notability, and the lack of secondary sources discussing his significance suggests that an encyclopedic article is not warranted at this time. The obituary provided by the popular resistance movement is a primary source and does not offer the independent, in-depth coverage needed for a standalone article. As such, a redirect to the Popular Resistance Committees I think would be appropriate action per
WP:ATDCray04 (
talk) 11:44, 30 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep - Plenty of reliable sources. Per WP:GNG. Had prominent role in the Israel-Palestine conflict.
BabbaQ (
talk) 13:05, 30 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Can you actually provide reliable sources that give him SIGCOV? VRtalk 18:40, 30 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Redirect and selective merge to
Popular Resistance Committees. Falls slightly short of GNG and not enough sustained/lasting coverage to warrant a standalone article. FrankAnchor 19:11, 1 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Redirect per Sirfurboy. Assertions of
WP:SIGCOV don't establish sigcov, and I don't see any actual links to sigcov here.
Levivich (
talk) 18:48, 3 January 2024 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.