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The result was delete. The Bushranger _{One ping only} 02:27, 13 December 2015 (UTC) reply

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Notability? Aside from the article's problematic history (original article was an OM sock creation), the current version doesn't establish notability and uses several questionable sources (will post detailed source review below). I wasn't able to find additional reliable, independent and in-depth coverage about this artist. Needs further scrutiny. GermanJoe ( talk) 00:00, 6 December 2015 (UTC) reply

• Comment - sources (Refs #1 and #5 are among the better references here, but they aren't sufficient to establish notability per WP:GNG):

1. mostly an interview, short background info
2. Athenian School Blog - blog, restricted problematic usage, doesn't add to notability
3. reader-submitted content
4. only a short WP:MILL profile
5. interview without additional content
6. self-written article
7. I haven't checked every single word, but this seems to be an exact copy of ref #5 (??)
8. self-written article. GermanJoe ( talk) 00:09, 6 December 2015 (UTC) reply

• Pinging @ Jeremy112233: and @ DESiegel:, so far the only other contributors in the current article's history. GermanJoe ( talk) 00:09, 6 December 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Note - nominated image for speedy. Pre-published images from the Internet need clear source information and permission from the copyright owner. GermanJoe ( talk) 00:12, 6 December 2015 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. GermanJoe ( talk) 00:32, 6 December 2015 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. GermanJoe ( talk) 00:32, 6 December 2015 (UTC) reply

• Delete - Currently nothing to suggest better general notability. SwisterTwister talk 06:37, 6 December 2015 (UTC) reply
• Delete None of the sources listed appear to meet WP:RS guidelines. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 02:07, 8 December 2015 (UTC) reply
• "consider editing" i authored this page a year and a half ago as a draft, got feedback and posted it but was asked to find more sources and i did improve it. this artist is known to me and is doing some innovative things in Hip Hop Education, unique to the genre and seems to be in the vanguard of notability. OM approached and said that they worked with Wikipedia and knew how to post the article, and they did, that is the history of how this spiralled into a an article for deletion. If its deleted, I would like suggestions on how to improve it. Based on notability guidelines, and fanbase the artist qualifies and the articles in the SF Bay View, which is an interview, and in the Green Prophet/and Illume, are independently written articles about the artist. I'm a bit confused because it seems to me this artist is more notable than many who have pages on wikipedia and are not up for deletion at all. ookladamotookladamot ^Talk 08:25, 9 December 2015 (UTC) reply
  • It is probably still too soon for a Wikipedia article about this artist. I'd suggest to wait, until additional third-party sources become available (i.e. news stories, album reviews or other independent articles about his career). I sympathize, that it's difficult to find sources for regional artists in a subgenre, but the article needs such sources not only for notability but also to independently verify the article's claims. GermanJoe ( talk) 15:37, 10 December 2015 (UTC) reply
• Comment - My edit to the page was to nominate it for speedy deletion. I appreciate the above comment by Ookladamot, so won't vote one way or the other at this point. If there person is indeed notable, I would add as many significant news stories about them as you can find. If those sources exist, then the person would be notable enough to be on Wikipedia. Jeremy112233 ^{( Lettuce- jibber-jabber ?)} 19:29, 9 December 2015 (UTC) reply
• "'Comment'" Thank you Jeremy112233 and GermanJoe for your feedback, please feel free to delete this site, I will continue to improve my article and do my research, there are many local artists I follow and there is great disparity on who gets discussed and not--I would argue that a vast majority of indie artists on Wiki now are probably not notable enough. I hope as I improve my article and add album reviews and other information from press that I can look to you both for advice on my writing before I upload it, thank you for your advice, it has been invaluable. ookladamotookladamot ^Talk 08:25, 12 December 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.2.241.104 ( talk) reply

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