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The result was no consensus. No consensus for a particular outcome has transpired. North America ¹⁰⁰⁰ 09:26, 20 April 2018 (UTC) reply

Payless DIY

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Defunct DIY chain with sources linking to Do It All. Can't see any notability with this one... Night fury 08:41, 21 March 2018 (UTC) reply

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• Probable keep. This is of an age where online information is going to be scanty. However, there are some indications it could be notable with some library searches. Some of its history is in back issues of Retail Business. Only snippet view available on gbooks but it appears to be reasonably detailed. There are lots of passing mentions of their takeover and merges, and they frequently get mentioned taking part in the battle over Sunday trading laws of the era. Court cases concerning their Sunday trading are cited as precedent cases in books on law. Spinning Spark 14:42, 21 March 2018 (UTC) reply
• Delete - needs more than one reference to support notability.-- Rpclod ( talk) 02:23, 22 March 2018 (UTC) reply

• @ Rpclod: Well the book Tales from the Marketplace gives it a couple of paragraphs. Not much, but it's strongly encyclopaedic with citable facts on the history. Note also that the Retail Business source I linked above is a volume of issues and Payless DIY seems to have articles in two separate issues of the magazine. The magazine Do-it-yourself Retailing is again only snippet view but appears to have a substantial article. This book seems to have a lot more than a passing mention, snippet view won't give anything that can be put in the article but almost certainly there will be something there if the full article is accessed. The legal actions on Sunday trading I mentioned above [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] are passing mentions, but together could probably add a sentence or two to the article The first source in that list in particular is a secondary source that puts the cases in the context of the effectiveness of political lobbying. Spinning Spark 09:10, 22 March 2018 (UTC) reply

Weak Keep - expecting a simple Google search to throw up much on a 1980s chain seems fruitless. It looks like someone needs to roll up their sleeves and do some historic research and citations on this one, with Google Books being a decent starting point. I'm seeing multiple decent discussions in sources like Investors Chronicle, and an 1994 book on one of its parent companies. I do wonder if it would be better placed as part of an article on Ward White - which seems to have more significant references, and seems to have significance in the history of Boots UK and the Sunday Trading Act 1994 Mattyjohn ( talk) 22:01, 2 April 2018 (UTC) reply

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