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The result was keep. (non-admin closure)   Kadzi  ( talk) 20:47, 30 July 2020 (UTC) reply

Paul Crarey

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He played at amateur and semi-professional level and coached at amateur and semi-pro level. Successful, and did achieve some coverage, but I couldn't establish that he meets WP:BIO or WP:GNG. Boleyn ( talk) 13:26, 4 July 2020 (UTC) reply

Keep Meets WP:RLN as he made over 10 appearances in Challenge Cup games. Nthep ( talk) 14:29, 4 July 2020 (UTC) reply
user:Nthep, thanks for your comment. I could only find him having involvement in Challenge Cup games as a coach, have you seen a source of him playing in one? Thanks for your help, Boleyn ( talk) 15:09, 4 July 2020 (UTC) reply
None that are currently online but for Barrow v Huddersfield in January 1989 for one. There's going to be a large set of rugby league records published soon which will take care of a lot of borderline situations like this one. Nthep ( talk) 16:14, 4 July 2020 (UTC) reply
That's a tricky one, as we do need a source (as we can't accept WP:OR) to establish it happened but we want to be clear whether he is notable or not. Boleyn ( talk) 07:40, 5 July 2020 (UTC) reply
It wouldn't be OR, just a printed source. But I'm a bit loathe to add a reference to a single match report to establish that he meets WP:RLN when this is about general notability. I think there is enough especially of his more recent career as a coach for that to be established. It's a side issue but I am unhappy with RLN and its marginalising all UK based players outside of Super League when the lower two divisions are an integral part of the sport. Nthep ( talk) 14:10, 5 July 2020 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 05:41, 10 July 2020 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 05:41, 10 July 2020 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, PhantomSteve/ talk¦ contribs\ 19:44, 14 July 2020 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 07:48, 22 July 2020 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.