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The result was no consensus.
Stifle (
talk) 11:36, 11 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep per
WP:IMPACT, his published insights and coverage of
Dwight D. Eisenhower are evidence enough of this being a notable individual. However, a review of online sources show a suprising number of entries about him and that would be enough to surpass
WP:GNG as well. They need to be added to the article.--
Paul McDonald (
talk) 13:41, 14 August 2020 (UTC)reply
I don't regard any of those as giving substantive "insights and coverage " that reach the level of
WP:IMPACT.
Mztourist (
talk) 05:18, 15 August 2020 (UTC)reply
The first link alone is the metadata on a stack of some 200 pages of research. We can disagree, but ultimately it is neither your decision nor mine.--
Paul McDonald (
talk) 20:16, 15 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete independent coverage is lacking (I checked the linked sources, which are mostly passing mentions), notability is not inherited from a minor association with Eisenhower. (
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c) buidhe 09:36, 15 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete the sources are a passing mention in the West Point almanac, one article that mentions him rooming with Ike, and his own papers. Doesn't meet either SOLDIER or the GNG. Non-notable colonel.
Peacemaker67 (
click to talk to me) 08:18, 16 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep I realise that he was only a colonel, but enough material to already create a reasonable article, and there are multiple additional minor claims to fame, such as his friendship with Eisenhower, his membership of the famous class of 1915, which has its own article, and of the 1914 championship football team, which is also famous enough to have its own article. Note the navbox at the bottom! That national championship football team includes Omar Bradley (five stars), James Van Fleet (four stars), William Hoge (four stars) and Vernon Pritchard (two stars). Others are notable as gridiron players, including Alex Weyand (an Olympian), Robert Neyland and Louis A. Merrilat. Notability is not inherited from colleagues, but being surrounded by famous people guarantees lots of mentions - enough to satisfy
WP:GNG.
Hawkeye7(discuss) 23:20, 16 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Eddie891TalkWork 11:53, 22 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanztalk 15:36, 31 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete, Not covered by independent reliable sources.
Alex-h (
talk) 08:24, 4 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment--I've had some disagreement above with an editor about the significance of the sources, but this is the first comment to question the independence and reliability of them. The United States National Archives and several book references are neither independent nor reliable source?--
Paul McDonald (
talk) 15:20, 4 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete - Short of sourcing necessary for a GNG pass. The Eisenhower Library link being 404 doesn't help.
Carrite (
talk) 02:50, 6 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Dead links are editing issues, not deletion issues. --
Paul McDonald (
talk) 13:52, 8 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep. In addition to the sources previously noted, a quick search of Newspapers.com turned up
obit part 1/
obit part 2,
this,
this, and
this. The totality shows a
WP:GNG pass with significant coverage in multiple, reliable sources.
Cbl62 (
talk) 05:43, 10 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Almost all of those obits in minor newspapers include in the headline "Ike's roommate" or "Ike's classmate", showing that he was not notable himself, merely for his association with Eisenhower.
Mztourist (
talk) 07:35, 10 September 2020 (UTC)reply
That's simply not true.
This is a feature story about Hodgson in a major metropolitan daily that dates from a time before Eisenhower was even famous.
This is from The San Francisco Examiner, hardly a "minor newspaper". And
this is an in-depth, two-page obituary that goes into significant depth about Hodgson's life and accomplishments.
Cbl62 (
talk) 13:42, 10 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep I am convinced by Paulmcdonald's and Cbl62's sources that the subject meets GNG. ~EDDY(
talk/
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