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The result was redirect to
Parkchester, Bronx. Sourced content can be merged from page history.
ansh666 05:22, 23 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Fails
WP:ORG and
WP:GNG. Having limited police powers does not make a security guard a cop, and even if it did, being a police department is not inherently notable. If their is discussion in NYPD's article about private agencies with policing powers in their jurisdiction, a redirect may be appropriate.
John from Idegon (
talk) 00:38, 14 April 2018 (UTC)reply
REDIRECT - to the page about the jurisdiction. The agency is not notable enough to justify an article.
Acnetj (
talk) 00:34, 15 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment - its jurisdiction is a non notable apartment complex,
Acnetj. What would you have it redirect to?
John from Idegon (
talk) 04:02, 15 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment - Here:
Parkchester, Bronx. There's already a section with a link. Get rid of link and expand it a little bit.
Acnetj (
talk) 04:38, 15 April 2018 (UTC)reply
What is your justification for that,
Acnetj? Parkchester is NOT this organization's jurisdiction. One private housing development in Parkchester, which also includes public housing, commercial property and other housing, is their jurisdiction. This is NOT a police department, but a security department of a business that has some police powers. To redirect this to the article on Parkchester makes about as much sense as redirecting an article on say the Sturgis, Michigan police department to the article on the state of Michigan.
John from Idegon (
talk) 05:11, 15 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Redirect and selective merge to
Parkchester, Bronx, a large residential community within
New York City. Sources appear to be insufficient to support independent notability.
E.M.Gregory (
talk) 11:43, 15 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete: While I can understand
WP:CHEAP in some cases, I'm not really seeing it here. I did a bit of cleanup and tried a little
WP:BEFORE as well, but I'm not finding anything other than
WP:PRIMARY and lacking the
WP:ORGDEPTH required for organizations such as this. The organization exists, so it probably can be sufficiently sourced to be mentioned in Parkchester article, but that's about it. Not sure if there's even enough here for a acceptable stub since pretty much all of the content is unsourced and too excessively detailed per
WP:NOTEVERYTHING. --
Marchjuly (
talk) 06:33, 17 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Merge and Redirect to
Parkchester, Bronx. Perfectly reasonable solution. Better than losing information. --
Necrothesp (
talk) 12:41, 18 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Selective merge to
Parkchester, Bronx. Most of the stuff in this article is pure trivia and should be dropped; things like what kinds of cars they drive and what the uniform insignia looks like. To avoid
WP:UNDUE, I would guess we need to bring over no more than one or two paragraphs. Cherry-pick the most significant items from the lede and history sections, maybe mention that they have to pass the New York State Peace Officer Training Course, and that they carry handguns. Maybe the death of Albert Acosta. That's it. --
RoySmith(talk) 15:06, 22 April 2018 (UTC)reply
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