Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/PG_Narayanan References

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. While we want to and should encourage new editors we can not ignore notability requirements J04n( talk page) 18:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC) reply

PG Narayanan

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This Minnesota political candidate does not appear to meet the WP:NPOL criteria for notability as a political figure, nor does he seem to meet the WP:GNG standards of general notability. Fiachra10003 ( talk) 12:44, 27 March 2018 (UTC) reply

Note: This page was originally a redirect to P. G. Narayanan, an Indian politician who is notable. I would recommend restoring the original redirect. Oiyarbepsy ( talk) 12:46, 27 March 2018 (UTC) reply
Other note: There is another article about the same person at PG Narayanan, Candidate for EP City Council, currently up for PROD. It may make sense to add that page to this nomination. Oiyarbepsy ( talk) 12:51, 27 March 2018 (UTC) reply

Note: This person is notable in Minnesota. He has contributed a great deal to the community. This is also his real name. He has won a lifetime achievement award from the India Association of Minnesota for his contributions to the state. Please do not delete this page. Please tell us how to improve the quality of the page instead. See [1] 27 March 2018.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.209.14.73 ( talk)

I am also nominating the following related pages because it is a duplicate of this article. PRehse ( talk) 14:27, 27 March 2018 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen ( talk) 14:37, 27 March 2018 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen ( talk) 14:37, 27 March 2018 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Minnesota-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen ( talk) 14:37, 27 March 2018 (UTC) reply

Certainly a mess exasperated by redirect hijacking and multiple postings of the same article but yes Delete both as the subjects only claim to fame is attempting to run for a minor office. PRehse ( talk) 14:40, 27 March 2018 (UTC) reply

This was not done intentionally. We are new to posting content. Per the Wikipedia terms and agreement, people should be showing how to improve a page to encourage new users, not to simply delete pages or to post rude comments. I have asked how to improve the page, but no one has responded. Two articles were not supposed to be created, that was a mistake. How do we keep one of these pages active? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.209.14.73 ( talk) 18:34, 27 March 2018 (UTC) reply

Comment: Please note that the purpose of Wikipedia is to make available articles on notable subjects. There are specific standards for notability in general - WP:GNG - and for the notability of elected officials - WP:NPOL. The nature of these "Articles for Deletion" debates is to objectively determine the consensus of the community as to whether articles like these meet Wikipedia's standards of notability. Please take a look at these standards and draw your own conclusions as to whether the subject of the articles meets them. Separately, I would normally never edit text other than my own on this page, but your unfamiliarity with the syntax meant that your text was broken into several segments, which I have now drawn back together. Fiachra10003 ( talk) 02:01, 28 March 2018 (UTC) reply
Delete. Doesn't appear to meet notability standards for politicians. I found four mentions in the Minneapolis Star Tribune archives. I don't think Wikipedia usually has articles about political candidates who don't yet hold office, nor do I think we have articles about city council members outside of the largest cities in Minnesota. See Category:Minnesota city council members for some examples. -- Elkman ^(Elkspeak) 20:15, 27 March 2018 (UTC) reply
Delete: no evidence of notability. I've redirected PG Narayanan, Candidate for EP City Council to PG Narayanan, so we are only looking at one article (although the one with the long title was created earlier, there is more content at the shorter title). If the article survives this AfD it will need to be moved to a properly disambiguated title. Pam D 09:29, 28 March 2018 (UTC) reply

If kept, will also need a hatnote at P. G. Narayanan. Pam D 09:32, 28 March 2018 (UTC) reply

Delete, and then restore the original redirect to the Indian legislator (we do not want this article's edit history retained behind that redirect, nor do we want to keep the overdisambiguated "Candidate for EP City Council" title at all.) People do not get Wikipedia articles just for being candidates in city council elections — and in a city the size of Eden Prairie, even winning the city council election still won't be enough. (City councillors are automatically accepted as notable only in internationally famous global cities on the order of New York City or Chicago or Los Angeles, and in any other city outside that range they get into Wikipedia only if they have strong and well-sourced claims to being special cases over and above most other city councillors.) The only way to get him an article, consequently, would be to demonstrate and reliably source that he passes our notability standards for his prior work before running for city council, which nothing here does. Bearcat ( talk) 19:19, 28 March 2018 (UTC) reply

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