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The result was keep. Consensus exists that the topic meets WP:NONPROFIT. ( non-admin closure) sst✈ (discuss) 09:31, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
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Does not meet WP:ORG. No sources indicate the prominence of the group, as there is no mention in independent media or other notable/reliable sources. Delta13C ( talk) 02:57, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. — JJMC89 ( T· C) 06:21, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Oregon-related deletion discussions. — JJMC89 ( T· C) 06:21, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
- Delete for now as I simply found no better sources other than some local news articles thus not much better improvement yet. SwisterTwister talk 06:13, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Comment I'm having trouble figuring out why the nom says there is no mention in independent media or other reliable sources as I have come up with dozens of mentions, many of them substantive and not just passing mentions. And "some local news articles" includes many articles in The Oregonian which is a statewide paper and thus regional and not just local, as well as Willamette Week, the Portland Tribune, Portland Monthly, etc. I think the organization's name may have been a rather difficult search term to use to do WP:BEFORE but with a bit of extra work there are many citations to be found, including several scholarly citations. Anyway, I've begun to expand the article, please take a look now. I will continue to expand the article so that I feel it will pass WP:NONPROFIT. If you take a look at the sources available in the now-modified search template above it may help. Valfontis ( talk) 05:24, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
- Keep Valfontis has greatly improved the article and well demonstrated that the topic is notable. A few days ago I did some searches and found plenty of needle exchange coverage, but didn't find the other "firsts" and "bests", but I was too lazy to comment at the time. — EncMstr ( talk) 07:06, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
- Strong Keep I was looking for information on this organization and Wikipedia was the only place with a comprehensive history and details about what this organization provides. This article is well-within Wikipedia's guidelines and provides and important information about one of the West Coast's most notable non-profit youth homelessness organizations. Jkfp2004 ( talk) 20:06, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
- Keep I plan to expand the article further, but I want to register my keep before this is closed on the grounds that this organization clearly passes WP:NONPROFIT in that coverage of it can be found in "in multiple reliable sources that are independent of the organization". Lack of citations in the article is not a criterion for deletion, when there are sources available, and though there is more coverage that could be added, I believe the article as it stands shows there is sufficient independent coverage (including books, magazines, newspapers, and research papers) and to pass a minimum standard of notability. I'd invite @ Delta13C: to reevaluate the supposed lack of mentions in independent media. I'm also having trouble finding a guideline that says local sources (noting that the organization is located in the largest metro area in the state and one of the three largest metros in the region, so when we're talking "local" that doesn't mean it's a place like, say Greenhorn) are not reliable sources. In any case, the organization, as cited in the article, is notable as one of the first free clinics on the west coast, as a pioneer in needle exchange programs, and as a pioneer in naloxone dispensing legislation. Valfontis ( talk) 08:04, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
- Keep – Passes WP:ORGDEPTH. Source examples include: [1], [2] (scroll down), [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10]. Also keep per WP:HEY; the article has been significantly expanded by Valfontis. North America 1000 08:41, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
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