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The result was delete. Randykitty ( talk) 16:57, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
Omar Ezzou
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Non-notable club promoter. The 11 references in the article at the time of nomination are the same press release from different sources. Lacks coverage in reliable sources that would meet general notability. Whpq ( talk) 13:15, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz ( talk) 13:27, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Morocco-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz ( talk) 13:27, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete - pending the finding an citing of coverage removed from the same press release cited nearly a dozen times in the article.-- SamHolt6 ( talk) 14:40, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hi I am sorry if I had make any mistake. I added some more references as you needed. And I will add more, just need a little more time. Can you be kind enough and remove the template from the page. I am doing the best to keep up with the Wikipedia policy just need your support. Please give me 3-5 days for adding more references if needed and I kindly request you to please also remove AFD template from the article. Thank:) ( Ramniram ( talk) 05:15, 30 April 2019 (UTC))
- This discussion runs for 7 days. That is enough time for you to establish notability. At the end of the 7 days discussion period, an administrator will make a decision based on the discussion. I'll note that you have added 3 references. Of these, two do not have an actual article about Omar Ezzou, and the third is yet another copy of the same press release that was in the 11 original references. Press releases are worth nothing in establishing notability. Twelve times zero is still zero. What is needed is significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. -- Whpq ( talk) 12:43, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
- Comment - I do believe this guy exist but the only source I can find is a press released as discussed above by other editors. We do not generally accept press releases as reliable sources for Wikipedia articles. However, I am also mindful of the fact that Google takes a hell of a lot of time to index African newspapers, and sometimes not at all, and we should therefore be slow to nominate or delete African related articles just because we can't find sources online. Further, reliable sources do not necessarily have to be available online. We do accept reliable independent sources available off-line and in any language, provided they cover the subject in detail. Therefore, if there are any Moroccan newspaper articles written about this guy (which are not yet available online) and written in Arabic or French then I will have no problem voting keep - provided that the creator state the name of the newspaper, page number, date of publication, some (not all) of the text from the source language (for copyright violation purposes) and a translation. Tamsier ( talk) 10:58, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
Thanks Everybody for supporting this article especially Tamsier In addition I have added more references to this article and will keep adding more. This reference is from the one of the popular website. Here is it's link https://thriveglobal.com/stories/omar-ezzou-the-celebrity-club-promoter/ I hope for the best. ( Ramniram ( talk) 13:16, 3 May 2019 (UTC))
- Do you have any Moroccan newspaper articles about this guy which are not available online? If you have a minimum of three Moroccan newspaper articles about this guy (as long as you provide the details I've requested above) then I will have no problem voting keep. The problem I'm having is that, the sources you have cited are press releases which we do not accept as reliable sources on Wikipedia. Although MENAFN, Hope Tribune and Salem News are reliable sources, they categorised their article about this guy as "Press releases" if you read down the bottom, or copied word for word practically the same text (which either originated from their site or from others) and provided the contact details about this guy which reliable newspaper reporting on a notable person do not generally do, thus making it clear to me that their reporting is a press release even if they do not categorise it as such. Surely if this guy is the golden boy of Morocco, then Moroccan newspapers would have reported on him. As I have stated above, I am also aware of Google's issues when it comes to indexing African newspapers online. Therefore, if you can cite at least 3 Moroccan newspaper articles about this guy which are not yet available online - with the details requested, I would have no problem voting keep. I do not doubt for one minute that this guy exist. The problem we are having is significant coverage from independent and reliable sources. The coverage must be independent of this guy, not press releases. Tamsier ( talk) 15:19, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- The "new" source is now already gone, most probably because it was not an article but just spam. I saw it before it was removed and it was just a rehashed version of the press release that was badly rewritten by somebody with a poor command of the English language. See for yourself at this archived version. The "article" was written by somebody with a profile that states "I am a freelancer writer, blogger and seo expert."(emphasis added). A rehashed press release shows up on May 3 created by an "seo expert" and found by the article creator the same day? Nothing fishy going on here... - Whpq ( talk) 14:40, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - appears to be a purely promotional article ( WP:NOTPROMOTION) with content like, "His personality, his looks and his great ability to easily bring out tons of the party goers" - does not meet WP:ANYBIO - Epinoia ( talk) 15:01, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
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