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Delete Had the dog been an animal actor it’d be a different story.
Trillfendi (
talk) 19:36, 14 January 2021 (UTC)reply
I assume you are aware of the huge public following this dog had on UK television.
Martinevans123 (
talk) 19:47, 14 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep Most people don't usually meet the guidelines but that doesn't mean we delete all articles about people. This particular dog is notable and so we have an article about this particular dog, just as we have
many articles about other dogs. We even had an article about a
particular tree on the main page yesterday.
Andrew🐉(
talk) 20:17, 14 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Merge then redirect with/to
Monty Don. Not independently notable.
Nigej (
talk) 21:41, 14 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep/Merge - The fact that its a dog has no bearing on notability if there are sources covering him, and this dog certainly seems to have ample coverage. I'm a bit torn between keeping it as a stand alone article or merging it to the wider coverage on
Monty Don, but straight deletion would definitely not be appropriate here.
Rorshacma (
talk) 23:31, 14 January 2021 (UTC)reply
The arguments below have swayed me towards the opinion that a Merger would be the better way to organize the information here, so I am updating my recommendation accordingly.
Rorshacma (
talk) 22:39, 16 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Agree with you there.
WP:N says that passing GNG "is not a guarantee that a topic will necessarily be handled as a separate, stand-alone page. Editors may use their discretion to merge or group two or more related topics into a single article." which seem to me to be the basic issue here.
Nigej (
talk) 09:12, 15 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep/Merge: I would say its a bad nomination. On going through the edit history of the nominator, I found that he hasnt done any
WP:Before before nominating for deletion. For some edits, he just only took 2 minutes. It clearly indicates the lack of guidelines followed here.
Kashmorwiki (
talk) 08:57, 15 January 2021 (UTC)reply
We are here to discuss the notability of Nigel the dog not to discuss the nominator
Spiderone 18:49, 15 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Strong Merge to
Monty Don: The notability for the subject is completely meshed with the target. Not everything needs a stand alone article. This content will improve the target article and an unnecessary split will just fragment the content for no reason to the detriment of the reader. //
Timothy ::
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a 14:12, 16 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Merge - primarily with the
Monty Don article. Nigel the dog certainly had a public profile, but it was not one that was independent of Monty Don. People looking for information on Nigel would probably expect to find it in Monty Don's article as he was his owner. Equally I think it is reasonable to expect the Monty Don article to cover his association with Nigel, particularly as it is clear he was an important companion to Monty. Not sure that a redirect is needed as I can't see Nigel (dog) being something someone would enter. It might also be worth mentioning Nigel in the [Gardeners' World]] article which he does not seem to currently be mentioned on.
Dunarc (
talk) 23:49, 17 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Point taken, and I am a dog person, but I still think Merge into
Monty Don is the best answer here.
RobinCarmody (
talk) 23:39, 20 January 2021 (UTC)reply
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