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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 04:58, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
Nationalist Turkey Party
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Fails WP:GNG. Kadı Message 20:13, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politics and Turkey. Kadı Message 20:13, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
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- Weak Keep - I managed to find quite a bit of coverage and updated the article with a few references. It's a weak keep because almost all of them are in Turkish and it's entirely possible that there are other factors making them not notable that I can't read. Panyd The muffin is not subtle 12:18, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
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Panyd, we have a bit of a problem here: this party was not founded by
Meral Akşener. The sources only say that after getting expelled from the MHP in 2017, Akşener was going to create her own party with rumours about it being called the Nationalist Turkey party. Per
the archive of Ref 1 by the
Court of Cassation in the article, the Nationalist Turkey Party was already founded in 2011 (p. 4), and Akşener created
Good Party instead. So the topic of the article should be the 2011 party, while Refs 2, 3 and 4 are about the rumoured party which in a way never came to be.
~Styyx
Talk? 09:08, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah this is what happens when I don't speak Turkish! I was taking that from the news articles Google translated and brief mentions in other places (Legal Monitor Worldwide which I didn't include and Armenpress). So is what you're saying that there are **two** Nationalist Turkey Parties and that one of them is established and one of them is just rumoured to exist? And that the references I've found are about one that doesn't **actually** exist, just was perhaps going to? -- Panyd The muffin is not subtle 10:13, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
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Panyd, we have a bit of a problem here: this party was not founded by
Meral Akşener. The sources only say that after getting expelled from the MHP in 2017, Akşener was going to create her own party with rumours about it being called the Nationalist Turkey party. Per
the archive of Ref 1 by the
Court of Cassation in the article, the Nationalist Turkey Party was already founded in 2011 (p. 4), and Akşener created
Good Party instead. So the topic of the article should be the 2011 party, while Refs 2, 3 and 4 are about the rumoured party which in a way never came to be.
~Styyx
Talk? 09:08, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
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Keep Appears to be sufficient Turkish-language coverage to meet WP:GNG. —Ganesha811 ( talk) 00:04, 21 February 2023 (UTC)- @ Ganesha811, Do you know Turkish? I am Turkish, and I can easily say that this article is not notable. Kadı Message 20:33, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
- I am convinced by the discussion above that this party is not notable. Struck through former comment. Delete. —Ganesha811 ( talk) 22:17, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:58, 21 February 2023 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Timothytyy ( talk) 03:55, 1 March 2023 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist. Soft deletiion is not an option. DId you mean to cast a vote Styyx?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 03:44, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete — Apart from a single source, the references found during this AfD are about a different party that never came to be. My own search yields no additional results, so without multiple references this doesn't pass the GNG nor NCORP. ~Styyx Talk? 19:56, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
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