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The result was Move to draft. Sandstein 10:08, 9 August 2020 (UTC) reply

Narrara (creature)

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The article does not meet WP:GNG and does not present encyclopedic information WP:INDISCRIMINATE. There is no indication from WP:BEFORE that any amount of expansion or restructuring will change this. If anyone feels strongly otherwise, I would support Draftify.   //  Timothy ::  talk  19:37, 1 August 2020 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Mythology-related deletion discussions.   //  Timothy ::  talk  19:37, 1 August 2020 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Wales-related deletion discussions.   //  Timothy ::  talk  19:37, 1 August 2020 (UTC) reply

• Delete Fails the GNG. The Squirrel Conspiracy ( talk) 20:57, 1 August 2020 (UTC) reply
• Delete I suspect that Narrara is a misspelling of Ngārara; the Māori name for reptiles. ^[1] We already have an article on Māori mythology, as well as articles on the reptiles that the term may apply to, like the Tuatara and the Otago skink. There's no point in redirecting since Narrara isn't really used anywhere, so it's not a plausible search term. Vexations ( talk) 21:46, 1 August 2020 (UTC) reply
• Author request, I am relying the request of the author ( [1]) that this be draftified.-- Eostrix  ( ^{🦉 hoot} _hoot🦉) 07:14, 5 August 2020 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp ( talk) 10:09, 5 August 2020 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp ( talk) 10:09, 5 August 2020 (UTC) reply

• Keep

i)Notability

The Original referrer of the Narrara, John Bidwill is a notable person, his book is notable, thus the creature while being discussed in the same book and having 'significant coverage', multiple reliable secondary sources which are 'independent of the subject', is notable, fulfilling WP:GNG and WP:N. (also in same way, J V Haast and Margaret Orbell are notable along with their works

ii) WP:INDISCRIMINATE

The article is neither any of the 'Summary-only descriptions of works', 'Lyrics databases', 'Excessive listings of unexplained statistics' or 'Exhaustive logs of software updates' thus not violating WP:INDISCRIMINATE.

iii) WP:BEFORE

Also, in spite of WP:BEFORE C. being very much pertinent, the AfD nomination was made.

iv) Alternative of Deletion

The article does not violate any 14 points mentioned in WP:DEL-REASON or any of G1-G14 or A1-A11 per WP:CSD. Further per WP:NOTBUILT, since the article has been in the process of improvement, also per WP:DEL#CONTENT, it should be kept.

v) Good Faith and New Comer

Besides I request to consider WP:FAITH and WP:DBN.

Comment: I have already requested the article to be moved to draftspace since in the mean time I could not execute the planned enrichment of the article due to the reigning exigent situation, otherwsise there would have been no requirement for this debate. AranyaPathak ( talk) 15:19, 8 August 2020 (UTC) reply

Attentive readers will notice that the copy of Bidwell's book that is linked to above, doesn't mention "Narrara", "Ngārara", "reptile" or even "creature". Vexations ( talk) 20:31, 8 August 2020 (UTC) reply

• Draftify - article doesn't currently demonstrate notability but happy to allow the author to prepare a draft that does. Deus et lex ( talk) 01:04, 9 August 2020 (UTC) reply
• Speedy draftify. AranyaPathak, who created the article, has asked for it to be draftified. It is definitely not ready for mainspace. Let's give AranyaPathak the chance to make something of it. (My advice to AranyaPathak is to consider whether the article should, in modern spelling, be titled Ngārara – the mythical creature in Maori belief, not the tuatara, Otago skink or reptiles in general.) Nurg ( talk) 02:05, 9 August 2020 (UTC) reply

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