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The result was delete. Sandstein 21:27, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
Nancy Platts
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Non-notable politician. She has never been elected and all references in the article are primary and offer nothing help her pass WP:GNG or WP:POLITICIAN County level of government is not enough to meet these criterias. McMatter ( talk)/( contrib) 13:28, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete does not meet the notability guidelines for politicians. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 14:07, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. Brighton and Hove is not a global city for the purposes of clinching the "inherent" notability of its city councillors just because they exist as city councillors, but this relies entirely on primary sources rather than any evidence of the reliable sourcing it would take to get her over WP:NPOL #2, where the test is "who have received significant press coverage". Bearcat ( talk) 03:16, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. She worked as the key aid for Jeremy Corbyn (Leader of the UK Labour Party) and has been elected at the provisional level now leading a city in the UK. She is the equliviant of the mayor, Brighton and Hove is a global city in specific areas (LGBT, Tourists etc), and in national level hosting the political party and trade union conferences it has political significance. The article does relies on primary sources, but I have only added it and myself and others are in the process of compiling reliable sourcing it would take to get her over WP:NPOL. She has recived coverage in nemerous national newspapers and often writes for national labour and trade union blogs. Lloyd rm ( talk) 14:31, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
- Firstly, "global city" status is not liberally conferred on just any city that can claim to have status in some particular domain like tourism — it applies only to cities that are ranked as such by a certain specific group of multinational organizations. The "global city" criterion for city councillors applies only to cities that are ranked as global cities by one of the organizations explicitly named in our article on the global city concept — if you don't see it listed under the Alpha, Beta or Gamma classes in Globalization and World Cities Research Network, then it's not a global city for NPOL purposes no matter how much you argue that it has status in some other domain that falls outside of the ranking criteria used by the Globalization and World Cities Research Network.
- Secondly, working as an aide to a national party leader is not an WP:NPOL-passing role.
- Thirdly, arguing that "leader of the city council" is somehow equivalent to "mayor" doesn't change as much as you think either — even mayors aren't handed an automatic notability freebie just because they exist as mayors, and still have to show a substantial volume of more than purely local coverage before they're deemed notable enough for a Wikipedia article. Bearcat ( talk) 17:37, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
- Keep - I think council leaders pass notability criteria. Especially a large one like Brighton & Hove ( MoonlightTulsi) ( talk) 23:30, 17 March 2020
- No, they don't. People pass NPOL #2 only if they have a broad range of nationalizing coverage in real media, and no position on a city council, not even "leader of the council" confers an automatic inclusion freebie on a councillor who hasn't been shown to have a broad range of nationalizing coverage in real media. Bearcat ( talk) 03:40, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, xinbenlv Talk, Remember to "ping" me 02:49, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, xinbenlv Talk, Remember to "ping" me 02:49, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, b uidh e 19:26, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, b uidh e 19:26, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:MILL, NPOL. Brighton/Hove is about as important a city to world travel as Cherry Grove, New York/ Fire Island Pines, New York. Bearian ( talk) 18:21, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
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