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The result was speedy delete as WP:CSD#G5. ✗ plicit 11:15, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
Mustafa Kartoğlu
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Sources are repeating what this person says and/or are unreliable "Kimdir?" sources. A beforehand search results in his articles published on Akşam, the newspaper he works for (a.k.a. not independent). No claims of meeting GNG. ~Styyx Talk? ^-^ 13:59, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. ~Styyx Talk? ^-^ 13:59, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Journalism-related deletion discussions. ~Styyx Talk? ^-^ 13:59, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletion discussions. ~Styyx Talk? ^-^ 13:59, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- Keep: Looking at the [1] results at least, I don't think it's fair to say that this is a "small result." They seem to be fairly significant Reasonable mind can differ about the sufficiency of the coverage but, at least to me, I think the relevant notability guidelines are met. -- عائشة المقدسي ( talk) 14:11, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- You just copy-pasted what you said
here. My response is the same. And didn't I already tell with this sentence that those are not independent:
"A beforehand search results in his articles published on Akşam, the newspaper he works for"
? ~Styyx Talk? ^-^ 14:27, 9 October 2021 (UTC)- He is the editor-in-chief of a well-known Turkish newspaper Akşam and we have a source from CNN Turkey CNN Türk talking about him and he is a reliable source + Medya Scope https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medyascope -- عائشة المقدسي ( talk) 14:32, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- You just copy-pasted what you said
here. My response is the same. And didn't I already tell with this sentence that those are not independent:
- Keep: He seems to be a well-known journalist and editor-in-chief of a Turkish newspaper
-- Gazeteci Mesut ( talk) 06:54, 10 October 2021 (UTC)— Gazeteci Mesut ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Being 'well-known' is a matter of opinion and has nothing to do with notability. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 08:23, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- I was already suspecting it, but the name of the second account pretty much confirms that this is a sock of
User:علي أبو عمر.
~Styyx
Talk? ^-^ 10:19, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- I would strongly recommend filing a report at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/علي أبو عمر if there's enough evidence. I'm not too familiar with this sock farm. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 12:11, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- Note to closer: عائشة المقدسي and Gazeteci Mesut are now both locked. ~Styyx Talk? ^-^ 14:05, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting in light of both keep voters being blocked as socks.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 🌀 Locomotive207- talk 🌀 01:07, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Relisting in light of both keep voters being blocked as socks.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 🌀 Locomotive207- talk 🌀 01:07, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
- Delete due to WP:GNG concerns. Also please consider doing a speedy delete under WP:G5 Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:40, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
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