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The result was No consensus.  —  Crisco 1492 ( talk) 09:16, 6 April 2014 (UTC) reply

Shah Muhammad Ramzan Mehami

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Article about a Muslim preacher, originally created as HAZRAT HADI-E-HARYANA MAKDHOOM SHAH MUHAMMAD RAMZAN MEHAMI (R A). I have declined the speedy deletion under the criterion A7, since the reference is real, but it is obvious that the article has no place on Wikipedia in this form; it consists of little more than preaching. - Mike Rosoft ( talk) 18:03, 6 March 2014 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 18:21, 6 March 2014 (UTC) reply
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  • Comment @ Mike but it is obvious that the article has no place on Wikipedia in this form; it consists of little more than preaching. Did you mean the format, writting style or extra informations given in the article by this. I haven't understand properly the exact meaning. But I must tell you that I have corrected some of the format errors, copyedited and corrected some expressions. I don't know about the source because it is not online. But I will try to find some reliable online sources. I was wondering that if you too can help me find some reliable sources. Jim Cartar ( talk) 12:52, 7 March 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Delete as one of the given sources might not even exist. I can't seem to find anything else on this individual. MezzoMezzo ( talk) 07:56, 9 March 2014 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 10:44, 19 March 2014 (UTC) reply

  • Comment The Tabligh Jamaat remains a very important movement. If this gentleman was one of its founders then he is almost certainly notable. Unfortunately, much of this article is a word for word copy of the The Tabligh Movement or Millions of Bearded Militants on the March. I am going to assume this is a good faith mistake. If the cut and pasted material is in the public domain, due to age, then it needs only to be properly attributed, as we do with articles that contain material cut and paste from the 1918 version of the Encyclopedia Brittanica. If Ramzan is truly notable, the article could be rewritten. But, if no better sources are found, I would prefer redirecting this to Tabligh Jamaat. Geo Swan ( talk) 20:06, 21 March 2014 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica 1000 02:41, 27 March 2014 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.