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The result was no consensus. Opinions are evenly matched between keep, delete and merge Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:29, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
Mogo
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The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing Wikipedia:General notability guideline and the more detailed Wikipedia:Notability (fiction) requirement. WP:BEFORE did not reveal any significant coverage on Gnews, Gbooks or Gscholar. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:47, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
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- Merge a minimum of info (creators, first appearance, brief description) to List of Green Lanterns. The entry should be five sentences or less. Argento Surfer ( talk) 12:34, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
- Delete due to only WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS of the subject, where direct detailed coverage is needed to establish notability, per the WP:GNG. Would accept a redirect if there is some consensus around target. Shooterwalker ( talk) 15:38, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - Article lacks real world details needed to fulfill WP:WAF or meet WP:GNG. TTN ( talk) 15:50, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- Merge per Argento Surfer. WP:ATD-M is a probably a good alternative in this case to get the appropriate content moved. This is definitely a valid search term and redirect that would likely get created anyway. He meets the lower standard of a WP:LISTN entry, and the suggested list meets LISTN with several listicles out there. Maybe use the intro at this Book Riot piece as a point of reference for merge content. - 2pou ( talk) 18:40, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- Weak Keep or else Merge with
List of Green Lanterns. There is a chapter titled "All for One and One for All: Mogo, the Collective, and Biological Unity" in the book
Green Lantern and Philosophy, which counts towards notability. There is also some discussion of Mogo on pages 184-185 of
Nerd Ecology: Defending the Earth with Unpopular Culture, although that is a weaker source. I also found some (admittedly
just
mentions) sources regarding the story "Mogo Doesn't Socialize" by Alan Moore about how it was a brief, throwaway story that actually became very influential for the Green Lantern mythos. Still, even if the page is merged somewhere that first source would be a useful reference to link to.
Rhino131 (
talk) 11:57, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- Does the chapter which has his name actually discusses him beyond a plot summary? --
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here 04:53, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
- Yes it does. It's a philosophical analysis of whether a sentient planet can actually be considered "alive", whether it has a soul, and as an example of the philosophy of biology. I rather find it a bunch of mumbo jumbo, to be honest, but that's irrelevant. It's a good source, although like I said it's the only source I found which could be considered significant coverage, hence the weak keep vote. Rhino131 ( talk) 12:06, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
- Does the chapter which has his name actually discusses him beyond a plot summary? --
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here 04:53, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 18:04, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 18:04, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
- Keep: If you have to ask whether a book chapter about this character provides significant coverage, then you've kind of lost sight of what significant coverage means. — Toughpigs ( talk) 18:42, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
- Keep: per Rhino131, the coverage seems wp:sigcov for a fictional character. -- Mamushir ( talk) 20:11, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
- Merge per User:Rhino131. It's a single source, and a lot of it really more about philosophy of biology than it is about the character. But there is something worth preserving here. Archrogue ( talk) 19:21, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
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