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The result was redirect to Arms (video game). Doczilla @SUPERHEROLOGIST 21:05, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
Min Min (character)
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This is one I had to look at deeply, but in all honesty it fails SIGCOV and notability. All the coverage is minor quotes and no real in-depth analysis or discussion outside of possibly Gavin Jasper's statement, and not much indication why Min-Min is any more important than another other character from ARMS, let alone notable as a fictional character.
Trying to find additional sources discussing the subject turned out fruitless also, outside of a lot of articles mentioning she exists. Kung Fu Man ( talk) 17:54, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
ADDENDUM: While there are additional sources in the previous AfD, I will argue that they don't offer enough, as they're isolated to gameplay of that particular Smash Bros. title and not really much even then.-- Kung Fu Man ( talk) 18:01, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements and Video games. Kung Fu Man ( talk) 17:54, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
- Delete This article suffers from a common problem in fictional character articles: trying to Voltron a bunch of trivial mentions to make a full article. This and this are ones I consider SIGCOV, so it does get close, but IMO does not pass it - everything else is trivial (i.e. a simple announcement) or primary, or from a content farm website that doesn't count towards notability per consensus. I certainly think a List of Arms (video game) characters would work well, but this character alone? Not really happening. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ᴛ) 20:02, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - Exactly as Zxcvbnm said, the sources are a bunch of trivial mentions or quotes cherry picked out of general reviews of the game, basically being used as a WP:REFBOMB to give the illusion of genuine significant coverage. I would also have no objection to using this as a Redirect to Arms (video game), if other editors would prefer. Rorshacma ( talk) 21:16, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - I agree with the verdict of the previous AFD. Not to mention, there's been more added since. Even if we're not counting the CBR and Screen Rant sources, the character had her own review, base on her appearance in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, by IGN, which is cited in the article. Then there's the Destructoid and Kotaku article which goes more in-depth on her inclusion in the game too. Surely, these give indication that she's more important than most of the characters from ARMS. MoonJet ( talk) 03:10, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
- But those are due to being in Smash Bros, and are the same level of commentary any Smash Bros. character received. It doesn't display actual importance or commentary on her, especially when compared to
Twintelle, who came from the same games but actively received analysis. It's refbombing with small quotes instead simply because she was in Smash.--
Kung Fu Man (
talk) 22:28, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
- But not all the Smash characters received IGN reviews, not even all the DLC characters. Coverage pertaining to her appearance in Smash Ultimate does not and should not negate her notability. These sources pass what we look for in WP:GNG, that being significant coverage. If multiple in-depth articles for her isn't significant coverage, then I don't know what is. MoonJet ( talk) 07:48, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- But those are due to being in Smash Bros, and are the same level of commentary any Smash Bros. character received. It doesn't display actual importance or commentary on her, especially when compared to
Twintelle, who came from the same games but actively received analysis. It's refbombing with small quotes instead simply because she was in Smash.--
Kung Fu Man (
talk) 22:28, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:29, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
- Delete/Redirect per reasons above. Most of the sources at reception were weak. GreenishPickle! ( 🔔) 12:26, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
- Comment - Though I stand by my keep arguments above (especially considering the fact no list article for the ARMs characters exist, meaning there's nowhere to even merge the important information to), I would settle on a redirect to Arms (video game), rather than a delete, as a plausible search term. MoonJet ( talk) 20:32, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.